I think 100k is the amount he still owes. Looks like he had a follow up or something that added $250 and insurance covered $175. Context is he had a seizure in the shower and was in the hospital for a month. A lot of plans you have co insurance after hitting your deductible where you split any further costs with the insurance company say 80/20. So it’s possible he only ends up paying $20k of that, or his bill was much higher and $100k is what he owes after co insurance
Most of those with a D next to their name are fighting just as hard against universal healthcare while collecting campaign donations from pharmaceutical companies anyway. Both parties are rotten servants to the capitalist class
Until one of them starts to actually advocate for these policies i see no point in deluding ourselves into thinking voting blue will make any difference when they literally do not push for universal healthcare
Well, there’s one party that has made it a point specifically to make things worse for people. They say it out loud. So vote for the other one while it’s still a 2 party system
The propaganda is people “like” their private insurance and don’t want to be “forced” to get rid of it. There is also an anti-tax streak that has existed since the 1700s (no taxation without representation, Boston tea party, etc) that lives on strongest in reactionary politics.
Edit: Oh and last time we tried to actually improve healthcare they scare mongered the public that there would be “government death panels” who decided whether you would get coverage. As opposed to the current reality where the death panels are real and run by private corporations.
I don’t understand why getting rid of private insurance keeps being brought up. Afaik none of the proposed laws would remove it. The point should be that the universal healthcare is good enough you don’t need private insurance.
In Canada there is provincial healthcare that everyone gets for free, and many people still have supplemental insurance (private or employer provided) to expand coverage for things like prescriptions, eye, and dental.
That’s such a great point. It’s not like single payer would close down private insurance companies. The truth is they would just become redundant and people would realize they’re not needed, then choose to stop wasting their money on them…unless they can pivot their business to provide additional and desirable service beyond what people get from universal coverage.
I have a buddy who has his own dental practice. Incredibly smart, motivated individual. Hates the thought of universal healthcare. Also hates not getting paid. I just don’t discuss it with him lol
He would also be guaranteed payment. I just don’t understand him. He does a ton of free work for people because he’s truly a great guy. He would get paid for that work. Maybe he thinks he would make less money?
Most of the people voting against universal healthcare are comfortably middle class and want to protect their ~premium coverage~ or they’re on Medicare. Few people struggling to afford healthcare even vote lol
No, most of the poor in red states don’t vote. That’s universally true across the country - there’s a small minority that do, but they’re not the ones stopping universal healthcare. It’s business owners, landlords, wealthy blue collar workers, farmers, and retirees.
This myth that the poor vote for their own oppression is something made up to make you hate poor people.
Poor people usually don’t vote, and when they do they usually don’t vote to the Right. I guess I’m just assuming that translates into things like universal healthcare. I need to go to work so I’m out of time to find out for sure though lol
I think 100k is the amount he still owes. Looks like he had a follow up or something that added $250 and insurance covered $175. Context is he had a seizure in the shower and was in the hospital for a month. A lot of plans you have co insurance after hitting your deductible where you split any further costs with the insurance company say 80/20. So it’s possible he only ends up paying $20k of that, or his bill was much higher and $100k is what he owes after co insurance
Usually there’s still an out of pocket max, like $5000.
But I guess that could depend on your insurance
It’s such a scam and the people voting against universal care are the same ones who complain they don’t go to the doctor because it’s too expensive
People are voting against universal health care? Do people other than hospital and Pharma owners actually vote against that?
It’s a point of pride for republicans to vote against the working class.
Well, people who want universal healthcare have a D next to their name. That is enough for 10s of millions of Americans to blindly vote against it
Most of those with a D next to their name are fighting just as hard against universal healthcare while collecting campaign donations from pharmaceutical companies anyway. Both parties are rotten servants to the capitalist class
No, we’re not going to both parties this discussion.
Until one of them starts to actually advocate for these policies i see no point in deluding ourselves into thinking voting blue will make any difference when they literally do not push for universal healthcare
Well, there’s one party that has made it a point specifically to make things worse for people. They say it out loud. So vote for the other one while it’s still a 2 party system
Any other mentality is delusional
The propaganda is people “like” their private insurance and don’t want to be “forced” to get rid of it. There is also an anti-tax streak that has existed since the 1700s (no taxation without representation, Boston tea party, etc) that lives on strongest in reactionary politics.
Edit: Oh and last time we tried to actually improve healthcare they scare mongered the public that there would be “government death panels” who decided whether you would get coverage. As opposed to the current reality where the death panels are real and run by private corporations.
This is the tragic half-truth espoused by the corporate media claiming there are two sides to this issue.
Every time, they fail to complete the statement: “…give up private, but Medicare coverage will be better
I don’t understand why getting rid of private insurance keeps being brought up. Afaik none of the proposed laws would remove it. The point should be that the universal healthcare is good enough you don’t need private insurance.
In Canada there is provincial healthcare that everyone gets for free, and many people still have supplemental insurance (private or employer provided) to expand coverage for things like prescriptions, eye, and dental.
That’s such a great point. It’s not like single payer would close down private insurance companies. The truth is they would just become redundant and people would realize they’re not needed, then choose to stop wasting their money on them…unless they can pivot their business to provide additional and desirable service beyond what people get from universal coverage.
I have a buddy who has his own dental practice. Incredibly smart, motivated individual. Hates the thought of universal healthcare. Also hates not getting paid. I just don’t discuss it with him lol
I wonder how many don’t go to the dentist because of poor or no insurance. He’d have more patients for sure
He would also be guaranteed payment. I just don’t understand him. He does a ton of free work for people because he’s truly a great guy. He would get paid for that work. Maybe he thinks he would make less money?
He’d probably have to work on more patients, since demand would surely shoot up.
Most of the people voting against universal healthcare are comfortably middle class and want to protect their ~premium coverage~ or they’re on Medicare. Few people struggling to afford healthcare even vote lol
And tons and tons are poor in red srates
No, most of the poor in red states don’t vote. That’s universally true across the country - there’s a small minority that do, but they’re not the ones stopping universal healthcare. It’s business owners, landlords, wealthy blue collar workers, farmers, and retirees.
This myth that the poor vote for their own oppression is something made up to make you hate poor people.
Ok then, I would love to see your information so I can understand it
So on universal healthcare I’m not sure, but based on party preference and voter participation it looks like right-wing poor people are a minority. There’s a linear relationship between voting and income and there’s a clear party preference based on income as well.
Poor people usually don’t vote, and when they do they usually don’t vote to the Right. I guess I’m just assuming that translates into things like universal healthcare. I need to go to work so I’m out of time to find out for sure though lol
I’m check it out, thanks
Thanks for sharing this, I really hadn’t considered it. I’ve never heard/seen this before but it makes a ton of sense, wish it were more visible.
Man I (as a german) often trash on the german insurance plan but from my perspective this is just insanity!
We also think that, unfortunately the poorest white Americans would rather die than risk giving insurance to minorites. So we have this system.
Oh, here’s another fun fact for you: an ambulance ride can be so prohibitively expensive that many people actively avoid calling 911 for fear of having to pay the ambulance bill. This results in people experiencing medical emergencies either: (a) driving themselves to the hospital while having their emergency, which is incredibly dangerous; (b) opting to call a ride share like Uber or Lyft instead; or © not doing anything at all and hoping the emergency resolves itself.