Haven’t called you a vegan, actually. Comparing a thing to another thing isn’t saying that thing is the thing.
But American literacy, so, it’s alright.
“like half” the reason people go hunting. You know that that’s not saying “precisely 50% of all deer are killed for their antlers”, right
Yes, I do. It’s still a massively gross overestimation. That’s like saying fishermen fish for those weird filled record fish that the occasional weird restaurant has. Definitely not “half” or even close.
Ah, in the states it’s illegal to discharge a firearm in a populated area, which is why hunters can’t hunt in cities.
Same thing here, would you believe it? You thought our gun or hunting regulations are less than in the US where a large portion of the population is armed and you’re not required to prove your sanity before being allowed to get a firearm?
The friend I was with serves the exact purpose that the “police snipers” you talked about do. We just outsource them to hunters who actually know what theyre doing, not gun crazy pigs.
He has a licence for that shit (thus the suppressor as well, required for it) and is also the only hunter I’ve know who has a permit for a handgun for executing animals. (It’s not too rare for veteran hunters but I moved out instead of becoming one so only got to see his. Shot plenty of others tho, from non-hunters, including our heritage wwii officers pistol.)
I’m not rambling or crazy. I’m writing on forums. Don’t take everything as a personal attack just because it’s not 100% agreeal.
In any case, you seem really torn between wanting to defend hunters and to insult American hunters
Neither really. I defend all deer management for obvious societal reasons. That deer management involves culling. You SEEM TO (I emphasise it so you understand its what it looks like to me, whilst I’m not actually stating I think it’s 100% on the money) have a weird image about hunters. Maybe you only know some chad hunter’s who do it to feel macho or something. But idk anyone like that, mainly because it’s such harder here to get a hunting permit. Deer, rabbits, not too hard. You still got to pass a general theory and shooting test. For moose and other larger game, you have to be part of the hunting club and live in the same municipality. Because it deters touristy trophy hunting, and forces the emphasis on managing wildlife.
While shooting is ofc what a lot of hunters enjoy (not killing, per se, don’t make them out as psychos), it’s the meat that they more value. And most of the managing is setting up feeding places, counting populations, spotting them etc.
Which I firmly believe to be the case in a lot of places in US as well. Ofc there’s a lot of difference as well, but you’re sort of skipping over the majority of hunters who’re basically ever so slightly on the spectrum, love nature more than humans, and also happen to kill some of the nature, because to keep it pristine you must prune. Because humans settled these parts long ago and we just can’t have wolves roaming woods surrounding farms. Doesn’t work.
I wish it did. If love wolves. And hunters and farmers are way too aggressive against them. But unfortunately some truths are annoying.
You’re still stressing recreational hunting. Implying you understand there’s also non-recreational hunting. And I can tell you that for most of the year, the hunting is just boring animal management, and not “recreational” to the people except because those people like being alone in the woods making grain piles and setting up salt rocks and sitting on the aides of fields for hours just staring at dark field until they can spot some deer.
We could do things more effectively and better for the environment but farmers, hunting groups and people who make money off the hunters don’t want that.
Yeah. The USA definitely could. Your deer management culture seems shit. That doesn’t mean all the hunters are. Small but crucial difference.
But no, hunting is not a profit game here. Ergo “US is capitalist shit hole with poor hunting practices, recreational or no”
Yeah, I saw you were still being randomly antagonistic and disagreeable and scrolled to the end where you agreed with what I initially said, confirming that this entire thing was basically you being mad you didn’t know American hunting laws.
poor hunting practices
Eh. Our parks are probably bigger than your country, so your opinion is moot anyway.
Challenging something doesn’t mean “randomly antagonistic”.
Believe, you’d know if I was being antagonistic. You’re just painting your own assumptions onto actually neutral text. It’s a very common problem for the, eh, less cognitively capable.
So essentially what you’re doing is “I didn’t read that because I’m not here to have a conversation I’m here to win”. So… I’m guessing an American in their early 20’s, still seeing everything and anything as some competition?
So when someone with actual hunting experience shows you up, you just run away with your tail between your legs. Or perhaps it was actually that the comment was literally too long for you to even read.
And it proving you just so wrong makes it impossible for you to address anything in it even if you did manage to read it.
That’s crazy man. Hey, do you know if you can substitute applesauce for butter in a boxed brownie mix? I’m out of butter and the internet is giving me mixed answers.
Haven’t called you a vegan, actually. Comparing a thing to another thing isn’t saying that thing is the thing.
But American literacy, so, it’s alright.
Yes, I do. It’s still a massively gross overestimation. That’s like saying fishermen fish for those weird filled record fish that the occasional weird restaurant has. Definitely not “half” or even close.
Same thing here, would you believe it? You thought our gun or hunting regulations are less than in the US where a large portion of the population is armed and you’re not required to prove your sanity before being allowed to get a firearm?
The friend I was with serves the exact purpose that the “police snipers” you talked about do. We just outsource them to hunters who actually know what theyre doing, not gun crazy pigs.
He has a licence for that shit (thus the suppressor as well, required for it) and is also the only hunter I’ve know who has a permit for a handgun for executing animals. (It’s not too rare for veteran hunters but I moved out instead of becoming one so only got to see his. Shot plenty of others tho, from non-hunters, including our heritage wwii officers pistol.)
I’m not rambling or crazy. I’m writing on forums. Don’t take everything as a personal attack just because it’s not 100% agreeal.
Neither really. I defend all deer management for obvious societal reasons. That deer management involves culling. You SEEM TO (I emphasise it so you understand its what it looks like to me, whilst I’m not actually stating I think it’s 100% on the money) have a weird image about hunters. Maybe you only know some chad hunter’s who do it to feel macho or something. But idk anyone like that, mainly because it’s such harder here to get a hunting permit. Deer, rabbits, not too hard. You still got to pass a general theory and shooting test. For moose and other larger game, you have to be part of the hunting club and live in the same municipality. Because it deters touristy trophy hunting, and forces the emphasis on managing wildlife.
While shooting is ofc what a lot of hunters enjoy (not killing, per se, don’t make them out as psychos), it’s the meat that they more value. And most of the managing is setting up feeding places, counting populations, spotting them etc.
Which I firmly believe to be the case in a lot of places in US as well. Ofc there’s a lot of difference as well, but you’re sort of skipping over the majority of hunters who’re basically ever so slightly on the spectrum, love nature more than humans, and also happen to kill some of the nature, because to keep it pristine you must prune. Because humans settled these parts long ago and we just can’t have wolves roaming woods surrounding farms. Doesn’t work.
I wish it did. If love wolves. And hunters and farmers are way too aggressive against them. But unfortunately some truths are annoying.
You’re still stressing recreational hunting. Implying you understand there’s also non-recreational hunting. And I can tell you that for most of the year, the hunting is just boring animal management, and not “recreational” to the people except because those people like being alone in the woods making grain piles and setting up salt rocks and sitting on the aides of fields for hours just staring at dark field until they can spot some deer.
Yeah. The USA definitely could. Your deer management culture seems shit. That doesn’t mean all the hunters are. Small but crucial difference.
But no, hunting is not a profit game here. Ergo “US is capitalist shit hole with poor hunting practices, recreational or no”
Yeah, I saw you were still being randomly antagonistic and disagreeable and scrolled to the end where you agreed with what I initially said, confirming that this entire thing was basically you being mad you didn’t know American hunting laws.
Eh. Our parks are probably bigger than your country, so your opinion is moot anyway.
Challenging something doesn’t mean “randomly antagonistic”.
Believe, you’d know if I was being antagonistic. You’re just painting your own assumptions onto actually neutral text. It’s a very common problem for the, eh, less cognitively capable.
So essentially what you’re doing is “I didn’t read that because I’m not here to have a conversation I’m here to win”. So… I’m guessing an American in their early 20’s, still seeing everything and anything as some competition?
So when someone with actual hunting experience shows you up, you just run away with your tail between your legs. Or perhaps it was actually that the comment was literally too long for you to even read.
And it proving you just so wrong makes it impossible for you to address anything in it even if you did manage to read it.
Get rekt, kiddo.
That’s crazy man. Hey, do you know if you can substitute applesauce for butter in a boxed brownie mix? I’m out of butter and the internet is giving me mixed answers.