My child is being punched at kindergarten by a girl who also continually does things to him. For example, putting soap on his chair, messing with his outdoor clothes, etc.

The teachers know and have talked to the girl’s parents, but the behavior continues. My child is scared to go and cries about it sometimes. I’m not entirely sure how to handle it, because that’s the teachers job and I’m not there to help or see it.

Eventually, I’m considering involving the police, but that seems pretty last resort.

Any suggestions?

Edit

The director and teachers are all aware of the issues

  • velma@sh.itjust.works
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    11 days ago

    They’re in kindergarten. Teaching to hit back shouldn’t be so highly upvoted. Teaching boys to hit girls isn’t going to repair his self esteem or his pride.

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      Unfortunately, we need to know how to defend ourselves from physical violence, no matter who is dealing it out.

      Having been bullied in school myself, I can also attest that it only stopped when I started fighting back.

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          So four year olds shouldn’t defend themselves from physical violence?

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              Based on what I’ve read here, I think that’s been tried and doesn’t work. Until it does, that four year old gets to go out in the world with fear, with the adults around seeming to be unable or unwilling to help.

              When my kids were younger, and had these very same troubles, I told them what I was doing that they might not have been able to see, and that they shouldn’t start a fight but they had every right to finish one, and that I’d stand behind them if it came to that.

              Just having the confidence that they could defend themselves in the moment helped a lot.

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                Sending a 4 year old out with the message that they can alleviate their fear by being violent only breeds more violence.

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                    If they were 12 you might have a point, but at 5 kids are still malleable enough that teaching nonviolent conflict resolution is realistic and can have lasting impact

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                    The world where girls and women are raped at extremely high rates by men? By violent men? By men that are taught that they can restore their pride and self-esteem by enacting violence on others?

                    Yeah, come live in this world with me.

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      Personally, I’m in favor of karate because I think it could help my child block and avoid physical attacks. Plus the confidence of being able to handle a fight without panicking.

      Martial arts isn’t always about escalating with more violence. Plus my son isn’t violent and won’t be punching anyone anytime soon, but being able to dodge/block is very cool.

      I fully agree that teachers should handle this, but they aren’t.

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        Martial arts taught me how to block my abusers’ strikes, and it teaches to manage the body’s stress response and channel it into action - even if that action is “I have the power to not punch first”

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        Karate is a great extracurricular. They aren’t going to teach him to hit back to restore his pride or self-esteem like the other user pushed though. They’ll help him build his self-esteem internally which will help with his emotional resilience.

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      Yes, please. “Fixing” someone by teaching them to practice violence has never solved anyone’s problems in life. It’ll just turn them into a person who also thinks violence is an adequate means. Pretty much like that other girl who obiously also learned violence gets her something. And currently they seem to be smarter than that, you don’t want to drag them down and turn them into some potential bully as well?!

      I mean first of all it’s the adults responsibility to fix this situation. They have to because it’s unacceptable and it’s their job. And furthermore, this should be about stopping(!) kids punching other kids, not add more punching to the mix. We really don’t need more violence on this world and in future society.

      (And lastly this isn’t even what they teach in karate club. Karate isn’t about fighting other people. It’s about personal growth and about you yourself.)

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      The flip side is teaching him that he can’t fight back when he’s physically attacked and teachers aren’t helping isn’t great

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        Then pull him from the daycare if the director and the teachers refuse to protect your son.

        Why aren’t you pressing the adults for more action here? Are you content to let them just be looped in and do nothing to protect your son?

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                I would press them for more intervention. Separate the kids when they’re playing, watching them more closely, time outs for the instigator. Make it clear this is unacceptable moving forward and that it is impacting your son’s ability to participate at school.

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      10 days ago

      Unless you’re suggesting teaching kindergarten girls to hit boys will repair their self esteem or pride, im not sure why it’s necessary to make gender a variable here.

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        I didn’t make gender a variable, the parent comment that I replied to did.

        Kindergarteners shouldn’t be taught to hit back.

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          You know what? that’s fair.

          I entirely missed that comment, my bad.

          I don’t think idealism against the idea of violence is the answer, given…you know…people, but i’m all for not making it the first port of call.