Well, that doesn’t really matter since they don’t store anything, so if they would get subpoenaed they couldn’t give anything of value. If laws change and they force to have backdoors, well, that’s another story but until then that’s not a valid argument.
The problem is that their app is only distributed through the Google and Apple app stores, so for the average users its impossible if what they install actually matches the source code. And they dont allow distribution through F-Droid (which compiles directly from source). An agency like the CIA could easily serve a malicious Signal update to a specific user.
Telegram is NOT safer than signal. When you start using it your mom will and they won’t use encrypted chats because telegram makes them not default… It’s a terrible messenger
I think that the CIA would do that with very specific people, it’s not like it’s going to be wasting attacks at random, and that people should probably download the .apk from Signal’s website or use something more anonymous, like Briar.
The creator of the Signal app also had an interesting appearance on Joe Rogan’s podcast where even he had trouble going through airport security due to his role in the app’s creation.
They would do that with specific people, but atm it’s just safer to not use a smartphone at all if you think you are a target for that kind of thing - telegram for sure isn’t better
Well, that doesn’t really matter since they don’t store anything, so if they would get subpoenaed they couldn’t give anything of value. If laws change and they force to have backdoors, well, that’s another story but until then that’s not a valid argument.
The problem is that their app is only distributed through the Google and Apple app stores, so for the average users its impossible if what they install actually matches the source code. And they dont allow distribution through F-Droid (which compiles directly from source). An agency like the CIA could easily serve a malicious Signal update to a specific user.
Telegram is on F-droid.
I’m talking about Signal.
Oh right, so that’s a strong argument for telegram being safer than signal. That really bucks the conventional wisdom.
Telegram is NOT safer than signal. When you start using it your mom will and they won’t use encrypted chats because telegram makes them not default… It’s a terrible messenger
to be exact : TELEGRAM FOSS
I think that the CIA would do that with very specific people, it’s not like it’s going to be wasting attacks at random, and that people should probably download the .apk from Signal’s website or use something more anonymous, like Briar.
We dont know that, and personally I wont take the chance. Downloading from their website is even more insecure by the way,
The creator of the Signal app also had an interesting appearance on Joe Rogan’s podcast where even he had trouble going through airport security due to his role in the app’s creation.
They would do that with specific people, but atm it’s just safer to not use a smartphone at all if you think you are a target for that kind of thing - telegram for sure isn’t better