A lot of youtubers have their own discord servers. I’ve seen 1 or 2 IGers with discord servers. We could try to get them to bridge to a matrix room? How do we go about this?

For IGers, we could also try to say something like, ‘put a link to a specific mastodon/pixelfed account that mirrors your content in your bio and i’ll manually crosspost material to that pixelfed’.

Other ideas? And how do we get them to reply?

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Start by messaging small creators (especially ones who discuss tech/decentralist politics), I’m talking servers which have under 200 members. There’s this tendency to shoot for the top first but you have to work your way up gradually. You’ll find you get more responses that way.

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Pretty good tips!

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How did they end up on these platforms? Often the first thing that’s said is that they need “ease of use”. That’s true obviously but I also think that a lot of unsaid value they get is a possibility for growth. A few thousand people discord server isn’t anything special, while on the open-source alternative they would maybe be the biggest community.

I guess my conclusion is that they need to be sold on the additional freedoms and benefits they get by using it, it being similar to use isn’t enough.

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How did they end up on these platforms?

Because their friends/celebrities are on them. The network effect.

I guess my conclusion is that they need to be sold on the additional freedoms and benefits they get by using it, it being similar to use isn’t enough.

IMO we don’t have to sell them on benefits - it’s not like IG sold them on the benefits aside from network effect.

IMO

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As @Tomat0@lemmy.ml says, realistically, these are long-term goals. I know of a few Discord servers that have a channel or channels dedicated to Matrix bridging, but I’ve also had admins outright refuse my overtures.

To date, my biggest coup was bridging a 500 member Telegram group with a 200 member Matrix room on the same topic. The admin on the Matrix side was sympathetic, but the Telegram admin was skeptical. It took a solid month of negotiations, with plenty of space for them to consider things and think of new questions, either about Matrix and bridging generally, or the specific initiative I was posing, and the community on the Matrix side.

There’s also the infrastructure considerations. Moderation is a big concern, particularly with Telegram, or a Discord server of significant size and / or popularity. There can be concerns about the bridge being a conduit for spam, but, equally, proposing automated solutions that bridge, like Matrix’s Mjolnir, can be a selling point. I run my own homeserver and Mjolnir instances with this in mind. Similarly, I run my own appservices, to open up bridging possibilities to more obscure IRC networks, or to take advantage of newer features than are available on the older branches run by established services like the fab t2bot.io.

In summary, it’s the long game, and spending time getting to know any particular community is essential. They may be predisposed to the idea if you target specific topics, as Tomat0 suggested, but that’s no guarantee. In fact, it could easily swing the opposite way, where concerns about logging and search engine indexing could scupper the initiative. Ultimately, successful bridges are partnerships, the criteria for which are common across many subject areas, including those well beyond technology.

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