• Hypx@kbin.social
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    To get a long-ranged BEV, you need a giant battery. That means massive repair bills down the road. Only by limiting range to a small number can this be avoided. Saying that BEVs can have 300 miles of range is missing the point. It is just too expensive to get there.

    There is now technology that can let you refuel in 5 minutes, give you 300-400 miles of range, while also being a type of EV. As a result, it no longer matters that BEVs are “good enough.” It is simply not the most practical idea. Something else is flat-out better.

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      Your alternative is not better, because it’s not in mass production. When it’s in production it might be better.

      But there are still a lot of problems to work out with hydrogen fuel, and the infrastructure is extremely expensive and complicated compared to simple charging stations.

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        It will be mass produced. The main difference is that there will be much less need for raw materials. So it will be much cheaper.

        There’s very little left to solve for hydrogen cars. It’s mostly outdated bullshit coming from competing industries. The only real problem left is getting it to mass production. Once that happens, hydrogen cars will be as cheap as ICE cars, and hydrogen fuel will be cheaper than gasoline.

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      Battery technology will be improved. Look at how much better today’s lithium ion batteries are than the NiCad batteries of the 90s.

      At some point, we’ll develop something that doesn’t wear out for tens of thousands of charge cycles.

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        And fuel cells will also improve. Why not invest in an alternative? At the very least, you have a backup plan.

        Also, fuel cells are electrochemical devices just like batteries. They arguable are batteries. So there’s no reason to not accept fuel cells.

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          Hydrogen can not be improved. It will still seep through containers no matter what material you use because hydrogen atoms are just so damn small.

          They are 2 fundamentally different problems, and only one can be actually improved. And that is the battery storage.

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            That’s gibberish. All technology improves. And with hydrogen, you already start off with the highest possible energy density. And fuel cells are electrochemical systems, just like batteries. Saying batteries can improve also imply fuel cells can improve.

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      Massive repair bills like you would have with an ICE engine and transmission or hydrogen fuel cell. Turns out vehicles, regardless of what they’re powered with, are expensive to fix.