How long until we get that per-user full instance blocking feature? Lemmy is literally degrading from the lack of it.
Next release has it I believe.
Use different apps, like Connect they have that
… doesn’t that just mean that only non-LemmyNSFW users will be able to downvote?
It also means that you will only see the downvotes from your instance. So I would not be able to see your downvotes, because you are from kbin.social.
If you are on a large instance, like lemmy.world, you’ll still see a lot of downvotes.
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Like, I get being upset to some degree. I don’t fret about downvotes, but I do about reduces, since I want the content I bothered to post to at least be seen. But at the same time, that’s part of the risk of making subjective or controversial content (and unfortunately, to some people all NSFW content is controversial).
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I don’t understand what you’re losing, tbh. I literally don’t understand the drama.
Why would you want to downvote on a discussion forum? If it’s trolling, then report it and a mod can delete it. If you disagree, then reply and explain. Isn’t that why we’re here… To talk about and share content and ideas?
Not always worth the time to reply and explain. A downvote says “This isn’t content worth engaging with.” If some pro-genocide twat comes in and says “Aktually you have to understand that the genociders are in a very tough position…”, it may not be trolling or against the community rules, but it sure as shit isn’t worth being part of the discussion.
Exactly this, the idea that every viewpoint deserves to be respected and given an equal share of attention is false. Racists, homophobes, ect don’t deserve to be given a platform to spread their views and down votes are one of the more effective tools a community has to limit those kinds of content.
I suppose it depends on how well mods respond to sea lioning.
The problem with downvotes is that it encourages echo chambers, hiding any views that don’t conform to the consensus view. The Internet is prone to confirmation bias and downvotes exacerbate the problem.
Unpopular views will still get “ratio-ed” without downvotes.
If you disagree, then reply and explain
A lot of people have trouble with this one I think, especially actually elaborating about it.
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I’m on Beehaw, which doesn’t allow downvotes. If you downvote any of my comments on Beehaw I’ll literally never know unless I log in from another instance. Beehaw also won’t federate your downvotes to other instances, either, so only other users on the same instance will see them.
It’s a pretty great system, imho. Downvotes haven’t been useful since Digg collapsed and Rediquette went out the window.
Rediquette went out the window.
Well that’s it I’m downvoting this! 🙃
Felt weird typing it, too. It’s okay to talk about Rediquette on Lemmy as ancient history from 12 (?) years ago, right?
Downvotes are disabled on Beehaw, and I believe that downvotes from other instances don’t federate - i.e. they’re only visible on the instance the user downvoted from. If you’re on a massive instance and you view a popular community you’ll still get “useful” numbers of downvotes but otherwise it’ll mostly be upvotes.
I think Lemmy does need a more nuanced downvote system (e.g. you need to select a reason or there’s a quota or something), but I’m not sure how it’d work with the wider fediverse.
Edit: I should have scrolled more, two people had already written this comment).
Glad to see they did this. It seemed like downvotes were driving away some users.
It would be interesting to see how a larger instance functions without up or down votes. Similar to a traditional forum.
Hexbear has been doing pretty well for itself.
Yes, instead of downvotes you get images of pigs shitting on their own balls.
Pure poetry.
You maybe
No idea too shitty for Hexbear
Is that even possible? Like, I would still be able to down vote from a different instance?
You can. Your downvote are not federated though. That means your instance knows about them, but can’t send it to lemmynsfw.com since it doesn’t want to know. Consequently no other instance will know about your downvote since they ask lemmynsfw.com for who voted and who didn’t and not your instance.
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You will be able to downvote, but if the community in question is hosted on an instance that has disabled downvotes, your downvote won’t federate to anyone else. The only people who see it will be people on the same instance as you.
For users of an instance that has disabled downvotes, their timelines silently drop all downvotes, so those users see the fediverse without the impact of any downvotes, irrelevant of where they came from or what other people see.
