With fighting raging around Khan Younis and in the north of Gaza, a video has emerged on social media showing dozens of Palestinian men detained by Israel.

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    1 year ago

    Atrocities are perpetrated on both sides. That doesn’t excuse either of them nor does it justify committing them.

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      1 year ago

      Correct, but if one side fights dirty, the other side has every right to stupe down to that level.

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        That is not true, Israel is an state bound by international law, it must respect human rights, can not do this to anyone.

        Hamas is not an state, can be considered a criminal organization and Israel state can fight it inside law limits. No state can, should not (in theory) carpet bombing civilians, killing thounsands of them, including children, in order to kill some hundreds of criminals.

        Israel is an occupying state, palestinians has the right to rise against the Israel state.

        And finally, why are IDF soldiers killing palestinians in Cisjordania?, Hamas is not there, the attacks did not not come from that place.

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          Hamas is the governing body in gaza and must also be bound by international law. Saying they are a criminal organization and detaching them from gaza and its residents is the real crime which will lead to this cycle never ending.

          They must be held accountable for their actions and the actions of their elected leaders.

          Israel has been craying out about gaza’s endles rain of missiles since before they left in 05’.

          And finally, why are IDF soldiers killing palestinians in Cisjordania?, Hamas is not there, the attacks did not not come from that place.

          The initial attack did not come from there, yes. However since the October 7th atempted genocide, attacks on security and military fources in the area have risen. And with the “zero tolerance” in the wake of the 7th, i am not surprised Palestinians are getting killed.

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            “Hamas is the governing body in gaza and must also be bound by international law.” Yes, they should be arrested and put under trail, like germans generals and officers after WWII, some of them were hanged. To do that there are other ways.

            “They must be held accountable for their actions and the actions of their elected leaders.” who are they? even children? Their leaders are in other places, like Qatar, why not carpet bombing there?

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            Hamas has been more receptive of calls to adhere to humanitarian and international law than Israel is doing. In fact, Israel is committing the vast majority of these crimes now and on a much larger population of people.

            Hamas were always open to a prisoner swap and a ceasefire. Israel is the one refusing to uphold UN resolutions.

            So, we can safely conclude that Israel is genocidal and needs to go fuck itself and stop its human rights violations. They betrayed the ceasefire, they kept bombing and killing civilians to the last second before it started, several people in Gaza were killed by Israel during the truce and Hamas still held on and kept the ceasefire going.

            Israel is the one spinning that wheel.

            Israel birthed Hamas from their apartheid and oppression and will birth many more angry militant groups until they give Palestinians decency and human rights. There are no two ways about it. Anyone who knows jackshit about un-radicalizing a population knows too full well that bombing them create more radicalization (the Hydra effect)

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        Correct, but if one side fights dirty, the other side has every right to stupe down to that level.

        Ah so you mean to say October 7th was justified then.