You talk a lot about authoritarian countries, but simply dismiss anyone who disagrees with your opinion, as if you are somehow infallible. I think the idea that everyone should think exactly like you is in fact much more authoritarian. Dont you believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion? Or is that only if they agree with you?
Not every opinion is as legitimate as others. And yours is definitely not lol at least in my opinion. But I wouldn’t be alone in thinking that, at least outside Lemmy.
So you would say that your opinion is superior to mine, because people in your surroundings agree with you? It might surprise you to hear this, but people in my surroundings also agree with me, but for me that isnt a reason to claim superiority. Would you really prefer if Lemmy was an echo chamber where everyone thinks just like you?
This chap believes all people are equal but some people are more equal than others. And if anyone questions them, they will dismiss others with some goal shifting, generalised labelling or ignorant handwaving.
In one of your earlier comments, you laughed at the notion of western propaganda. Do you believe that western sources / media are more reputable than others?
this is probably exactly the kind of comments you have been banned for. Your view is not superior to others. You have a different opinion and can’t accept it.
Coincidentally, the admin can’t accept your opinion either.
Come on, mate. Saying “Non-capitalist outlets defend authoritarian regimes and push conspiracies” hardly matches your mission statement from your sub:
This group is meant as a companion-piece to the !worldnews community and act as a productive and useful addition to the “lemmyverse” as resource for discovering world news.
You might be concerned about this becoming a echo-chamber, which we are painfully aware and concerned about. We can’t claim to be perfect ideal people or guaranty that this will be a perfect community for world news.
But gosh darn we will try out best!"
Bashing alternative views surely isn’t your best, no?
And others will defend authoritarian regimes and push conspiracies.
basically says “non-capitalist outlets defend authoritarian regimes …”. I think that’s bashing anything non-capitalist / tilting towards propaganda and believe systems. There are many non-capitalist arguments that don’t have anything to do with authoritarian regimes or conspiracy theories.
Your mission statement says that you want to be productive and avoid becoming an echo chamber.
Those two statements don’t align as far as I’m concerned, since you basically set yourself up as an echo chamber.
I don’t believe all ‘non-capitalistic outlets defend authoritarian regimes’. I believe there is a giant majority community on Lemmy with lemmygrad who will go to any length to defend authoritarian regimes. They are also highly conspiratorial and believe that all of mainstream western media is propaganda, and that there doesn’t exist a true democracy in the west. They will also dominate the threads in addition to some becoming annoyed another narrative is portrayed leading the person leading the other narrative getting all posts downvoted and most interactions tainted by their wrath.
The point is, politics are in attached to anything within a society and present in places we wouldn’t think they were - including in our thinking and discourse.
I agree, to a certain extent. Usually the natural sciences affect policy and politics and not the other way round. You can’t change the laws of physics just by wishful thinking and issuing a decree things are falling upwards into the sky from now on. You can’t make 2+2=5, even if you’re living in the current year of 1984.
what’s the difference to regular world news? Are news something political? Shouldn’t they be properly researched anyway?
well, tbh all news outlets will have a political bias, capitalists news will be in favour of capitalism and vice versa.
And others will defend authoritarian regimes and push conspiracies.
You talk a lot about authoritarian countries, but simply dismiss anyone who disagrees with your opinion, as if you are somehow infallible. I think the idea that everyone should think exactly like you is in fact much more authoritarian. Dont you believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion? Or is that only if they agree with you?
Not every opinion is as legitimate as others. And yours is definitely not lol at least in my opinion. But I wouldn’t be alone in thinking that, at least outside Lemmy.
So you would say that your opinion is superior to mine, because people in your surroundings agree with you? It might surprise you to hear this, but people in my surroundings also agree with me, but for me that isnt a reason to claim superiority. Would you really prefer if Lemmy was an echo chamber where everyone thinks just like you?
This chap believes all people are equal but some people are more equal than others. And if anyone questions them, they will dismiss others with some goal shifting, generalised labelling or ignorant handwaving.
Both chaps do, actually 😉
I’d consider my stance on a lot of things more reputable and more within reason than yours, yes.
In one of your earlier comments, you laughed at the notion of western propaganda. Do you believe that western sources / media are more reputable than others?
I think there exists western propaganda. But not the one you think exists.
And why is that? Do you not think that everyone is entitled to their own opinion?
Apparently I not. And apparently you can’t make value judgments on other people’s opinions either.
this is probably exactly the kind of comments you have been banned for. Your view is not superior to others. You have a different opinion and can’t accept it.
Coincidentally, the admin can’t accept your opinion either.
Come on, mate. Saying “Non-capitalist outlets defend authoritarian regimes and push conspiracies” hardly matches your mission statement from your sub:
Bashing alternative views surely isn’t your best, no?
I don’t get what you are trying to communicate. Could you explain it differently?
Your grandparent comment:
basically says “non-capitalist outlets defend authoritarian regimes …”. I think that’s bashing anything non-capitalist / tilting towards propaganda and believe systems. There are many non-capitalist arguments that don’t have anything to do with authoritarian regimes or conspiracy theories.
Your mission statement says that you want to be productive and avoid becoming an echo chamber.
Those two statements don’t align as far as I’m concerned, since you basically set yourself up as an echo chamber.
Well, I beg to differ. But that is your opinion and I respect that regardless of how misrepresented I feel about how you portray my position.
Maybe you have time to explain how I misinterpreted your position?
You are trying to throw stones at a wall in hopes of getting bricks to talk.
I don’t believe all ‘non-capitalistic outlets defend authoritarian regimes’. I believe there is a giant majority community on Lemmy with lemmygrad who will go to any length to defend authoritarian regimes. They are also highly conspiratorial and believe that all of mainstream western media is propaganda, and that there doesn’t exist a true democracy in the west. They will also dominate the threads in addition to some becoming annoyed another narrative is portrayed leading the person leading the other narrative getting all posts downvoted and most interactions tainted by their wrath.
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Should they be?
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Physics, Mathematics, Chemistry, Logic, the scientific method,…
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I agree, to a certain extent. Usually the natural sciences affect policy and politics and not the other way round. You can’t change the laws of physics just by wishful thinking and issuing a decree things are falling upwards into the sky from now on. You can’t make 2+2=5, even if you’re living in the current year of 1984.
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Imperialist capitalist echo chamber with MBFC “fact checker” as arbiter of truths is the difference.
This comment utterly destroyed and left MBFC credibility limping: https://lemmy.ml/post/68185/comment/57988
Personally I will not even touch this sub with a 100 foot pole. I love critical thinking and educating people. Everyone has freedom though lol
There is an explanation inside the group if you look at the description.