• EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It’s MADdening that you believe that the US won’t be nuked for giving weapons to Taiwan and directing them to kill millions of people in mainland China. Taiwan doesn’t want to go to war with China and they’ve always wanted reunification. The US wants to divide and conquer China and should stop before it creates a nuclear catastrophe.

    • Blum0108@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Lol ok. If Taiwan has always wanted reunification then why hasn’t it happened yet? Were they waiting for an invitation? This is bad Chinese astroturfing.

      • EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Lol Taiwan and China have both claimed to be the “real China” but Taiwan is just a small separatist holdover of a civil war that ended nearly 75 years ago. Since they can’t run the show, they’re trying to be a wedge for US imperialism in east Asia. The People of Taiwan are Chinese citizens and the US should stop encouraging them to go to war to destroy themselves and their country.

        • wandermind@sopuli.xyz
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          1 year ago

          How petty the mainland Chinese must be if they cannot move on from a small island after three quarters of a century.

          • EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            Petty is when your girlfriend keeps your favorite shirt after the breakup.

            Refusing to admit you lost a civil war 75 years ago and blowing up a major dam, killing 35 million people to stall unification is genocide.

            • falkerie71@sh.itjust.works
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              Quick thinking would easily conclude that admitting lost would also break the status quo. A treaty would have to be signed, and since the PRC would never give up trying to gain new territory, what good will it do to Taiwanese people who have no desire to join the PRC?

              Petty is when your girlfriend keeps your favorite shirt after the breakup.

              And get your facts straight. ROC came before PRC. PRC never ruled over Taiwan once. The “girlfriend” in your story here is PRC, not Taiwan.

        • falkerie71@sh.itjust.works
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          Hey, how about you tell PRC to fuck off and not threaten war? You realize it’s been 75 years. That’s 2+ generations already, Taiwanese people no longer identify themselves as Chinese, and the ruling party now is not the same dictatorship that wants to reunite with China. No one wants war, but Taiwan does not want another dictatorship either.

          • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
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            1 year ago

            Eh, I haven’t had an opportunity to ask, but I think they do identify as Chinese. Just not as citizens of PRC, because they are citizens of another sovereign state.

        • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          Ok, then why continue lying about it and pretending China has to act against Taiwan to prevent it?

          • EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            I think the reason the US is lying is because they believe that they can undermine China’s position. They want to damage the country in some way to maintain their status as the sole superpower, but it’s too late for that. China is entrenched as a leader in world industry and attempting to contain them is impossible.

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              China is entrenched as a leader in world industry and attempting to contain them is impossible.

              Oh. That’s delusional.

              It’s funny how “second echelon” states’ enthusiasts are making the same mistakes in every century. From the German Empire to Soviet Union to China.

              Scale is not the only thing that matters and China is not innovative. It’s functioning as a huge factory for the rest of the world, and making lots of money and influence in process, but for the world it can be replaced, while the world can’t be replaced for China.

              Autarky is not possible for China. It could have had a chance at that 20-15 years ago, but it’s gone.

              Especially with its demographic and political tendencies.

            • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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              1 year ago

              I’m getting convinced you’re a parody account roleplaying as a paid apologist

              • EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world
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                1 year ago

                I’d describe myself as unfortunately well-informed. More likely is that the people I’m arguing with are paid apologists/mis-educated by the mainstream media.

                • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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                  1 year ago

                  You’re ‘informed’ that the US is planning to ‘conquer China’

                  Better swap your phone for some binoculars and go watch the horizon, I’m sure the landing ships will be arriving any day now

    • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
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      1 year ago

      So China wants to be nuked by the US because of not backing down with their aggression in this case?

      Some of the Chinese nukes would be shot down in such a course of events - there are systems like THAAD. AFAIK China doesn’t have anything similar, so the response strike is going to be more efficient.

      There’s no rule or law preventing two Chinese states from existing on one planet. You pretending otherwise doesn’t change anything.