You always hear the phase “9 to 5” and also the song with the same name. Assuming you include 1 hour worth of breaks (30 minute lunch and two 15 minute breaks), you’re only working for 7 hours a day which comes up to 35 hours a week.

Now it feels like you have to work 8 hours a day (for a total of 40 hours of actual work), plus your other time off meaning you’re really there for 9 hours each day (for a total of 45 hours). Am i looking at that wrong, or did expected times change, and if so, when?

  • weariedfae@lemmy.world
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    Everything changed. You’re not crazy. If you watch movies made before the 2000s about office culture, including the movie 9 to 5, you can see that the hours included a lunch break. Which was paid.

    Yes, those of the older generation had it easier in every way.

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      Those old tv shows where they casually eat breakfast before work make more sense. They weren’t up at 6, rushing to get to work by 8. They had a whole hour more.

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        In the US, you’re lucky if you get paid for the hours you work. And many don’t get all of their hours paid.

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          In the US, it’s Salary, not Hourly. It’s not “getting paid for the time”, you get paid for doing the job you agreed to do.

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            Most salaried workers are written up if they fail to work 8+ hours. Salaried is now just a method to deny people overtime - fancied salaried workers may still operate in the intended way but even most developers I know have to obey some sort of time tracking method.

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        I live in Canada. We get a half-hour lunch that isn’t paid in my province.

        Also, if you take more than 3 sick days a year, your boss can fire you. And the 3 sick days are unpaid. The government lowered the number from 10 to 3 shortly before the pandemic, and didn’t raise it again! Oh, and to count, your boss can demand a doctor’s note. Which cost money to the patient.

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          That’s so toxic! I get an hour long paid lunch break, and a bunch of paid sick days. Your work’s policies are shit, I’m so sorry!

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            It’s not my work’s policies. I get better than that. It’s what my province legally mandates that’s the problem.

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              Oh shit, sorry! I’m so happy you get better than that. Those are garbage mandates that predatory businesses for sure take advantage of. I hope your stuff is as good (ideally better) than mine.

              It doesn’t affect me but my work also rolled out months of paternity leave which is BAAAAASED

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            There might still be some decent provinces.

            But yeah, I blame brain drain, cuts to the education system, and the influence of American culture! Haha

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        Most people don’t. So, for an average employee, it would be 9-530 to account for their unpaid 30m lunch required by law.

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          Ha! Nah, Federal law doesn’t require a lunch period, or breaks, at all. It’s all state side.

          Only thing is that if an employer gives a short break, like 5-20 mins, it must be paid and included in overtime.