Not sure why Signal gets all the attention when Matrix is much more successful at spreading open source messaging and is also decentralized.

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    We actually don’t know what WhatsApp is doing. It’s a closed source app, so there is nothing preventing Facebook from getting your keys and reading your chats. It just takes one national security letter to force them.

    Telegram wins because it’s usable by non-techies. And has open source clients. And has a decent Linux client. It’s preferable to chatting over Instagram.

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        Why do you think WhatsApp has E2EE? It’s a closed source app. There is nothing preventing Facebook from grabbing your keys.

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          @thervingi
          Probably the fact that if news slipped out, it would have been (one of) the biggest scandles facebook has ever done, and I dont personally think its worth the risk for them.

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            That’s what NDA’s are for :) Facebook got away with a lot worse.

            Also it might not be Facebook’s decision. It takes one national security letter from the FISA court to force them.

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          on Telegram they wouldn’t even have to grab your keys, they can just run data collection on all their users unnoticed, without breaking any promises.