Do you have a price point as to how much you would cost? (Not looking for hookups BTW)

  • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    If you’re prepared to change your sexuality for money then your sexuality was a scam in the first place.

    No amount of money in the world would make me put my own nob in my mouth - let alone someone else’s.

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      Or maybe sexuality isn’t the unshakable sacred pillar you think it is? You can be 100% straight and decide you just want to go suck some dicks just to see what the experience is like; you’ll still be straight.

      Sexuality isn’t religion; we don’t have to be needlessly dogmatic about it.

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        If you want to suck someone else’s dick just to see what it feels like… is that not the very definition of bi-curious?

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          I guess it depends on why you want to do it, doesn’t it? Do you want to do it because you are questioning your attractions and potential sexuality? Yeah that’s probably bi-curious. Do you just have some sort of intellectual curiosity? A desire to understand the appeal rather than explore your personal interest? Is somebody offering you $20 to do it? For any of those, I think it’s less black-and-white.

          But what I think most and most importantly, is those labels benefit us when we wish to group, find commonality, or define preferences, so they have merit, but they do us disservice when they limit us or restrict our agency to that which we can define into convenient simplifications. So like, don’t not use them or anything (do you want, basically always), just don’t sanctify them. In the same way that virginity is mostly a construct, sexuality is too.

          And I’ll be honest, I wasn’t expecting the “I can’t suck because if I did I’d probably turn into the most voracious glizzy guzzler in history” response, so fuck if I know anymore if my little soapbox statement even applies to the situation at hand tbh, but I do think we sanctify, to our detriment, way too much in modern society, definitely including a lot involving sex and sexuality.

          And no, I’m not gifted with brevity, I’m sorry.

          edit: oh you are dude, my bad. I got confused somehow.

          • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
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            All that you say is probably valid. My only issue is a semantic one. As far as my understanding of how language works: if you’re a man that would consider sucking another man’s cock then you shouldn’t be using the word “straight” to define yourself.

            I’m all in favour of consenting adults doing whatever they want but it’s disingenuous to claim to be one thing whilst contemplating doing the opposite.

            I didn’t choose to be straight - it’s just what I am. Hell, I’m sure I would’ve had even more fun if I was bi but it’s just not me.

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              13 hours ago

              People were fucking in all variety of combinations long before the concepts of “straight” or “gay” even existed. “Straight” isn’t a thing, it’s a means of describing a pattern, that’s it. Language doesn’t define human activity, human activity invokes language in an attempt to characterize it.

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                13 hours ago

                I’m aware of all of that. We use words to convey concepts. The simple truth is… I don’t and never have had the slightest physical attraction to the male anatomy. More power to the guys that do…

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                  12 hours ago

                  That’s totally cool, obviously whatever you feel is what you feel and that’s right, I am not trying to convince you otherwise.

                  But there is a mountain of difference between “I’ve never been attracted to penis” and “If you’re prepared to change your sexuality for money then your sexuality was a scam in the first place,” which is all my point has ever been.

                  Don’t suck dick because you don’t want to suck dick, not because doing so will betray some kind of concept of “straight” upon which you are defining yourself, you know?

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                    12 hours ago

                    I’m still not sure of your point…

                    The OP question was directly addressed to “straight men”. If you choose to put another guy’s pulsing gristle stick into either of your two orifices, whether for pleasure or financial gain, I’d contest that you’re not 100% “straight”…

                    You’re not a vegan if you eat chicken for profit… but you can be a straight guy who sucks cock for profit?

                    That’s not my understanding of linguistics and semiotics - but I’m no expert in that field and stand ready to be corrected.

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      2 days ago

      Idk entirely on that, I hate olives but I’d eat one for fifty bucks. It doesn’t mean I like olives afterwards.

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        I dig your olive hate completely. It’s seems entirely irrational but as a fellow sufferer I understand. They look ok. Go with types of food I enjoy. Fuck my life I even cook with the oil. I should like them - but I don’t.

        Appreciably more than $50 might make me cross that boundary. I don’t think I’d be too seriously mentally scarred for life.

        But popping some guy’s throbbing member into my mouth and going to work on it until he cums? Nah.

        It would either break me and ruin sex for the rest of my life - or, yeah yeah, possibly turn me into an unstoppable smasher of twinks, or a cottager extreme etc.

        Nothing against it personally, it just seems so far away from it being my cup of tea. I don’t think I could ever recover mentally.

    • Klnsfw 🏳️‍🌈@lemmynsfw.com
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      2 days ago

      There’s a big difference between what you love (and would do for free), and what you’d agree to do for money (for an amount to be negotiated, under working conditions to be negotiated). That’s the idea of salaried work, basically.

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        Yes… I wouldn’t become an executioner, regardless of any payment amount, because it is fundamentally incompatible with my own sense of what is right - for me.

        I’m more than capable of executing anyone - but I’d not be able to be the same person after it; I’d imagine. It’s horses for courses at the end of the day. I’m prepared to only do so much to earn that dollar. Sucking dick certainly ain’t on that list.

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            Not really - I’ve been fucking for about 30+ years, tried a few things, and if I found something more beautiful and stunning then women I’d be an absolute menace to the world’s homosexuals as that’s a hell of a lot of lost time to make up for.

            If I had any bi-inkling at all I reckon I would’ve found out some clue pointing in that direction by now.

            I just find the male anatomy to be ugly. Women though, I could look at them all day long.

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      2 days ago

      Idk, I wouldn’t see it as changing my sexuality I would see it more like that show fear factor. I’m dealing with something I consider really disgusting to have… Idk how much. I guess a million? Lol I’d want enough to be able to live off the interest.

      • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
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        2 days ago

        That’s fair enough - people can see things differently; the whole rich tapestry of humanity and all that…

        To me though this question reads a lot like: Atheists, how much money would it take for you to believe in a god? or: Normal well adjusted people how much money would it take for you to hate someone based purely on their choice of a same sex partner, or skin colour etc?

        Best of luck finding that million euro blowjob - and I also hope you’d find something new and liberating about yourself in that process.

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          2 days ago

          See this is different.

          It’s more like, “atheists, how much money would it take for you to go to church regularly?”

          You can’t actually buy a belief, and unlike both of your examples, I dont have to lie about myself or espouse values I don’t have. They didn’t ask me “how much money to lie and come out as gay” after all, just how much to suck a dick.

          And as a straight atheist, I could give up Sunday mornings for money, even if it was boring or stressful, and I could suck a dick, although that sounds like all kinds of unpleasant. Wouldn’t make me anything but a straight atheist with a bunch of money, because my Sundays are valuable, and so is my dick-sucking virginity.

          About 50k feels right. I’m not worth any less, even though it definitely wouldn’t be worth it to anyone who’d wanna pay.

          • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
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            2 days ago

            Look, honestly, varied opinions are amazing. I believe there’s a term, gay-for-pay, used in porn for otherwise straight men who fellate men.

            Personally I’d go as far as to say a male-female-male threesome is kinda gay, but with extra steps. But for some people that’s their thing. More power to them. Not my thing though. Seeing my mate grinning back at me during sexy time is the stuff of nightmares to me.

            $50,000? Would that, uh, have to be a onetime upfront payment?

            • Khanzarate@lemmynsfw.com
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              1 day ago

              Upfront for sure.

              Like, i have the kneejerk reaction that a lot of guys have, to set a price as “millions” or whatever, but realistically, I could improve my life so much with 50,000$. So, hypothetically, I could improve my life so much with some gay benefactor who was willing to pay 50,000 for a blowjob from me. I could get rid of some debt, move to a better country, etc. 50,000 is on the lower end, but if some dude offered 50,000, I’d really have to consider it.

              I’m also in a relationship, and naturally she would have to also be OK with it. Maybe she would, maybe shed demand more, maybe she wouldn’t, but im just ignoring that for the moment. I’d have to take her feelings into account, but these are just my feelings, in this thread.

              • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
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                All jokes aside but I’m super impressed you’ve given your girlfriend’s feelings some thought regarding this…

                I hope you get a financial boost one way or another; but preferably not by performing sexual tasks that you wouldn’t do for free.

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                  Well hey the whole point of the price is that’s what I’d be happy with.

                  Some people seem to speak like they couldn’t sleep at night, knowing they’d done a gay sexual act of some sort. And maybe, they wouldn’t be able to. But I could, as long as there weren’t deeper repercussions like my relationship falling apart because I lied about it.

                  I’d sleep fine.

                  Maybe in another life I’d just be a career prostitute, maybe i handle that better or whatever, but in this life I’ll have to settle for software engineer. Don’t have the body for it.