Hypothetically it should have. Those were additional fields that I added to the main account login entree, in order to keep all the relevant data in one place.

No but your files are not stored as text files. That’s not what you’re paying for. You’re paying for the development of the software used to create, store and fill them at the appropriate times and places. If you don’t care about that, just keep them stored as text files on your computer. Boom, problem solved.

But you say just below this that I never paid for anything in the first place? In any case, whether paid or not, they still have to compete with other options including free ones like Keepass. Why would I pay for Proton over the free Keepass if Proton is basically ransomware?

You keep using that phrase. You are not “paying more” because you never paid anything in the first place.

Untrue. I was paying for it, and they required that I pay even more just to access the data that their system allowed me to enter.

If you think Reddit is the only place that’s going to call you out for being a choosy beggar, you’re in for a surprise.

You rn:

Wow, you are really full of shit. Stop wasting my time.

According to other comments in this thread, Bitwarden does similar crap. I went back to Keepass.

As for the data, luckily it was for an account I don’t need or use anymore, so I just deleted everything and moved on.

Yeah, I tried to be charitable and assume they were just ignorant of how bad Trump is. I should have known better.

Yeah and all of that hate is deserved, because their products suck, and so do the people who run the company.

Uh no. First off, I’m not on the free tier. I’m not on the most expensive tier, but I do pay for my account $4.99 monthly. Second, I used the built in features exactly as intended. Every login entree in Proton Pass has the option to add additional fields that you can name. That’s what I did, every security question being the name, and every answer being the data filled in. There was nothing to circumvent, because at least according to their pricing plans, even the free tier claims to allow unlimited logins.

It is literally ransomware. They allowed me to enter data in their program as intended, and then held that data ransom in order to pressure me into upgrading into a higher tier.

Yes, that’s exactly how it worked, and it is ransomware.

I’m sorry, but what? Number one, we’re talking about text. Bytes of data, which costs next to nothing to store. If you think that it is in any way fair for a company to allow a person to enter information into an account, and then unexpectedly charge them to access that same data, you are insane. If you paid for a storage rental, moved your belongings into it, and then found that the company changed the lock and decided you had to pay more to get your stuff - would you continue renting that storage?

Go back to reddit, corposhill.

It’s in Proton Pass. When you create an account entree, there is an option to create additional fields that you can name and fill out, kind of like multiple notes in one file. Somehow I was able to create those fields on my account just fine, but then to be given access to that data it turned out that I had to upgrade my account. In other words they duped me into entering data at no extra cost, but then charged me to access that same data later on.

Nothing is free, but there are proper ways to sell open-source and still respect user freedom. Proton’s model is no different than Ubuntu’s or Google’s model. It’s a grift.

I am on Proton Plus, $4.99 per month, which I now see does not appear to extend to Pass benefits. I’ve switched password managers already, and am going to be moving everything else over to other apps and services and cancelling my Proton accounts entirely.

I had to look into it again because their pricing models are weird and confusing. My current plan is something called Proton Plus, $4.99 per month, and evidently the benefits do not extend to Pass.

I had to look into it, because their pricing plans seem to have changed now. Evidently I have something called Proton Plus, $4.99 per month. It looks like that plans benefits do not extend to additional Proton Pass features.

I’m going to be transferring accounts away from Proton and then closing my accounts entirely. Already moved all my passwords back to Keepass. My main email address has been on posteo(.de), which has been great. Super reliable service from a company who appears to actually get the ethos of FOSS. I only pay, I think $12 per year for their service.

You sound like the kind of person who, in the 90s, would have defended Microsoft against GNU and Linux and the FOSS movement as a whole, “This is the way the world works.” No. I was using Keepass prior to Proton Pass. Proton proved to be a downgrade in every way. As a company they are in the same bracket as Ubuntu - trojan horse style grifters who wave juuust enough open-source around to lull users into dependency on a service that overall does not support user freedoms. They are grifters. It’s the same playbook as Google.

Software needs to be free on every level. It’s fine to sell free software, but if any part of it is proprietary, it’s as the FSF says - it’s a tool of unjust power over you.

And I don’t need that. Better alternatives already exist. Proton was straight up a downgrade.

Yeah, I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt (because sunk cost fallacy), but this is only one of a number of issues I’ve had with them and I need to be more quick to acknowledge grift when I know I see it.

In a sense that already exists, as I’m pretty sure there are extra plan benefits if you opt-in to more surveillance.

Yeah, I’m fucking done with cars. Can’t afford em anyway.

Keepass is tried and true, I’m going back to Keepass.

Should we not be allowed to host discussions, or make criticisms of companies who claim to support privacy, in a community about privacy?

Hey mods just saying… I think a lot of us would appreciate having rules against comments like these.