If its the word of the millenium Im very curious where it goes…

I used win because that’s what was used in the comment I replied to.

I was just pointing out that the Iran conflict was not intended to be long engagement either.

If Trump thinks invading Greenland is going to be a quick engagement that’s also as much of a miscalculation as thinking Iran would be quick.

Further more I don’t disagree that good points were made. If the US declares ownership of Greenland that will be the next chapter world warfare.

Strap in indeed. And I for one will go fight it

He saw Iran as a quick win too though

It’s not difficult to understand. This whole AI bubble is just a push to get enough people, a critical mass, over a threshold that they start paying for the usage. The Bubble was waiting for the money to run out which is what built the bubble. The money is running out and the subscriptions are ready for purchase.

Thanks for the clarification!

Magic me allllll the way!

I don’t have an answer for you other than, I don’t know why it hasn’t happened already.

Yesterday was the best time. Now IS the best time we have left. Later might be too late.

How can we as a group choose to suffer more than we already have? The majority of people have NOTHING if they don’t have a paycheck in the next 3 weeks. We starve and we die. And it’s not pretty.

The militias whose sole existence should be to combat the tyranny of government are the ones putting a boot on the necks of the people they should be marching into ICE held territory and saying this is not happening and I’m willing to fight for it.

That’s only in amerikkka though, which as long been the too big to fail state that has absolutely failed everyone.

That the epstein pedophile ring hasn’t been brought to clean and swift justice is a mockery of all that anyone has believed in as far as governments are willing to operate in anything resembling justice.

It’s fucking bleak. What can anyone do?

As a lover of science I find your recidivism ghoulish. Math rocks are magic. It’s insulting to think of modern science as magic as they requires me to turn off my brain and live as if I don’t have the answers to those things. But magic as the question asks is a force outside of nature. It is something that could benefit our greatest knowledge seekers. It is purely whimsy as the other person put it.

And I think you are trying to point out how amazing the things we take for granted are.

But I want to make something very clear. We do not have magic in this world. There is no divine being handing out miracles. There are no demons corrupting the world with dark forces.

We humans do these things, the divine and the demonic, that’s us. We can be amazing and we can be the worst thing that has ever been inflicted upon ourselves.

To borrow a thought, we do it to ourselves, we do, and that’s why it really hurts.

If you can’t understand what possibilities magic could do for us, what limitations we have with our math rocks, then I earnestly and whole heartedly implore you to open up your mind and dare to imagine.

It’s those who can imagine a world we don’t have that will give some of us the passion and the fascination to find out where our limitations can be pushed

Please clarify the details.

Is it reincarnated into a world without magic, retaining all of your knowledge just in a preindustrial revolution knowing and timeline will remain the same minus the changes I make? (Like everything that happened without human influence such as earthquakes, volcanoes, stellar phenomena etc would still happen at the same times, but magic now exists and I don’t have it?

And the other choice. Being reincarnated into a magic world without knowing who I am or anything I knew in my previous life but I will have a magic system to utilize that I’m fully informed of? And also does everyone in this magic world have magic or would I be a rarity or at least uncommon as someone who can use magic?

Jah, ist good!

This isn’t pizza it’s an open-faced quesadilla!

I knew you had it in you

I can think of many things worse than that, are you even trying??

I very much am not confused about this, you just aren’t willing to consider other view points and keep shifting the goal posts.

I thought this was an interesting conversation. You have shown me that I was wrong about this conversation.

You aren’t worth any more of my time.

And that’s sad

It absolutely did give me ownership of the software on everysingle NES game I bought. NO ONE can tell me I don’t own that plastic and can use it in anyway I want so long as I do not distribute copies or derivatives works of it. But I can create and make as many copies of it as I want as long as I keep them to myself and I can make whatever changes I want to it assuming I have the skillset to do so. They do not have to provide me any assistance, nor am I entitled to assistance to do these things, but as the owner I certainly can do these things

Owning something doesn’t mean there aren’t conditions, but I absolutely own those 1s and 0s on that piece of plastic. No one can delete them or take them or prevent me from using them in anyway.

This ISNT a 1980s thing either. Copying what’s on my Plastic NES cartridges is no different than is no different than forging a copy of the Mona Lisa if I owned it. Distributing that copy in any way is currently prohibited, but I can paint it as long as I don’t try to claim it’s the original.

Owning a NES cartridge might also give me a limited license to certain things but I OWN that copy of 1s and 0s even if I can’t copy it and sell it or give them away. I didn’t sign a EULA when I bought Chrono trigger. YOU may have, but I didn’t

This is no different than owning a house

I need to preface that I don’t know how to say this any better and I’m also short on time so I’m going to ask your forgiveness for my bluntness and any offence this may come across as. I promise you im not attacking you and you are just going to have to accept it. Again my apologies but here we go…

Your logic is screwed up and I’m having a hard time trying to sort out where your flawed logic is, so I’m gonna need some grace and more self reflection from you than is probably expected, I hope you can accomodate my shortcomings in this.

It’s not an attack, you seem to make a well thought out argument, which is more than I usually see. Credit to you and I do respect you for it.

All work created by a creator CAN be owned by someone else.

A horseshoe is no different from movie on DVD or SD card from an ownership standpoint.

I disagree that recording performances is a technological anomaly. Because it requires entirely too narrow a perspective.

The only different between someone writing a book describing a play and a recording is the medium used to record it. That medium is a physical thing.

We can’t literally record thoughts, not in any meaningful or useful ways at the moment but we ARE close to that. There is a research experiment where they recorded someone’s brain activity while they dreamt and were able to play that recording back to some degree of success.

In a hobbesian sense (as you described it, I’m not claiming mastery on the mans philosophy just trying to meet you where you are) you cannot own someones thoughts that use used to make a creation, whether it be a performance or a recording of the performance. The only difference between a horseshoe and a performance of a okay or music, is that not many people cared to bottle up the performance of a blacksmith making the horseshoe. Until YouTube.

Owning the horseshoe doesn’t give you rights to the performance of its creation, neither does owning a copy of the recording of the performance grant you ownership of the horseshoe.

There are different things at play from start to finish. And they are treated differently. I don’t think anyone is making the same arguments that you are claiming and refuting, and that’s why I think there is a flaw in your arguments logic.

Owning a game on a disc or cartridge is not equivalent to owning the right to a performance. It doesn’t give you ownership of anything other than what you purchased. In this case that we are discussing owning a game IS owning the code that exists on the physical medium, be it a hardrive, a paper printout, a disc. Ownership of that specific copy of that specific code is what ownership of a digital creation is. It’s an ordered number of 1s and 0s. It’s a copy of a pattern that is absolutely useless to anyone who can’t read binary on the medium purchases. Ownership does not require usability, but it MUST provide a product that is tangible, regardless of its usability to the owner.

Im not understanding why you are using the examples of right to a performance the way you are using them and I think what I’ve written here should be enough to explain what I understand about the situation. My ability to communicate my thoughts clearly and precisely to you, anyone else reading this and also to myself are perhaps insufficient, but that doesn’t automatically invalidate my understanding just because I can’t explain it well, or that I’ve made errors in my attempt to communicate them in this medium

Also the patrons of the people and organizations that produced these works have often been owned by those who funded them, stop kidding yourself

The opinions of Hobbes, Locke, and Rousseau are not absolutel nor ubiquitous. They may have said things that are no longer, or never were accurate and almost certainly should never be held to be inviolate/permanent.

Idiot on an intelligent team, I’ll only get better

Intelligent in an idiot team, they will only make me dumber

You could go back further and look at it like the building of the railroads all over again. Just as brutal instances in all over again too

Me too