He just repeats what he heard elsewhere, he doesn’t really understand what the words mean, just fancy text prediction

People can’t and won’t use it because it sucks. Middle mouse click is for two things:

1. open in a new tab
2. scroll/pan

See how they’re both navigation related? Because the mouse is a navigation tool, not a text tool.

A keyboard is a text tool, all pasting should reside on the keyboard. Eagle-eyed readers may notice that there are actually letters on all the buttons they keep mashing at random, those letters are a hint that the keyboard may be used for text-related operations.

Windows sucks now, but it won desktops for a very good reason initially and as Linux is making inroads into personal computing, there are no reasons it can’t learn lessons from why that was the case.

Old Linux GUIs suck and the user experience in general absolutely sucks on anything before Debian 8. Gnome classic was nuked because it sucked, and new Gnome was an improvement in every way, and it was only very recently that KDE got to a similar level of polish.

No one is saying the feature should be completely removed, just like KDE’s insane defaults of “Peek at desktop” in the bottom right instead of “minimize all windows”, it just needs to be hidden somewhere because 99% of users don’t expect a computer to work this way and with good reason.

Leave the legacy toggle in for people who cut their teeth on OSes made by companies that went bankrupt shortly after making them and expect all computers to work like that until the end of time.

Heck - just for them, create a separate clipboard that always holds the user’s nudes and dedicate left mouse click to a shortcut that emails them to their dad for all I care, because it’s how it worked on a random hack of AmigaOS they used in the 1800s, I don’t care, just leave us out of it.

X11 is a protocol that Xorg implements

This. Only correct comment in the entire thread. Rest are people who probably don’t even use computers and have no idea what a mouse is.

Happens all the time.

Oh cool I didn’t know that

I don’t believe ur mom adds much to the discussion xD

If you’ve never accidentally pressed the mouse wheel while using your mouse you must just not use computers very much, especially not for work

Post literally describes who and how it hurts. You need to read.

Hey OP, can you try running a nested gamescope session to see if that fixes the issue? I usually always do this as a rule of thumb for all full screen applications due to the many QoL features like real Vsync.

Actually, can you even do that on Wayland yet, or is that Xorg-only?

You’re right of course - it could be a Sway issue, but with Sway being engineered from the ground up to be a Wayland compositor, and conforming to that design, I would still blame Wayland.

To give a comparison: NTFS has many annoying flaws and limitations, but because it’s ultimately a file system created for the NT kernel on Windows, I blame Windows for its limitations.

Besides common sense would suggest that usually when it comes to launching games a display protocol would have more impact than a choice of WM, though Wayland blurs that line because of it’s unusual architecture compared to what we know and love with the X11 protocol and good old Xorg…

Classic Wayland. Fuck Nvidia tho

It’s just like the Quest 2.

It supports some small limited library of games without a PC, but can be used for PCVR for streaming VR experiences over WiFi, exactly like the Quest 2. I have never personally touched any of the on-headset apps on the Quest 2 apart from Virtual Desktop and have only ever used it as a PCVR headset because it’s so cheap compared to the Index etc., and am also looking for an upgrade to the Steam Frame, for PCVR exclusive use.

Thomas the tank engine. They are similar.

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This has happened to me before as well, there’s so many reasons a site or anything on your end or in-between could be down or have issues, that’s why mirrors work so well for resiliency! Glad you’re back up to speed now.

Deb-src is the source code repository iirc. Unless you regularly download and read source code, you do not need it.

Use X. Wayland is dead on arrival.

For all the mad ones here’s a reminder: the Steam Deck uses X for the desktop. You think if Wayland had a future, maybe Valve would see it? Considering they took Wine and made it functional and all.

Nevermind launching games via just Proton itself on the KDE desktop, but even if you use a nested gamescope session - it only supports X.

That’s not to mention that for any gaming outside of the steam deck, you’re gonna be using a real GPU that can actually play games properly, and NoVideo drivers only support X properly. You can either stay stinky with Wayland, or play with Path Tracing on.

Only GNOME Devs like Wayland. KDE, Valve, Qt and many other FOSS contributor individuals and orgs alike support and use X primarily.

Wayland is the IPv6 of the display protocol world.

Edit: guy replying to me is already blocked, what a surprise!

I get a 404 on those URLs too. Try a mirror? Look up Debian mirrors and try one of those

When I was ~10 and visiting the US as a tourist I lost my wallet somewhere on Ellis Island and realized it only when I was about to pay for a slice of pizza at some touristy cafe, I was freaked out and a random stranger that wasn’t in the queue just paid for it for me so I didn’t worry. Was only like 5 bucks or something but I still think about that today. Poverty and widespread opioid addiction and HIV was so common in the country I grew up, I was not used to people not caring to waste money just to help a stranger.