Just of top of your head, can you list three reasons they want to join the Fediverse for a “normal” Reddit user?
I agree, there is no reason for most of them to. Why leave a place full of conversation to join somewhere where there is hardly any?
That said, many people want to to abandon traditional social media sites like Twitter/X and Facebook - Bluesky has been a huge beneficiary.
If it did things differently, there is every reason to think the fediverse could benefit from that transition. This trend of turning against the old social media , especially as it has aligned itself with the far right, is only going to accelerate.
It’s still very early on, but a theme discussed in the video is worth repeating here: if the Fediverse is so great (ethical, devoid of advertising or toxic, addictive algorithms, with the goal of genuinely connecting people) why is it that the general public has not heard of it?
The futurology.today instance I’m an admin/mod of has the added benefit of being a direct sibling of r/futurology on Reddit which has 21 million users (I, and the other Mods also mod it).
Despite over a year promoting it on the subreddit, 3/4 of the instances users are from the fediverse, not Reddit.
Maybe the fediverse needs some breakthrough with usability, discovery and appeal?
Its bizarre that finding and subscribing to other instances is still so painful and backwards.
Why can’t we have new account types already subscribed to a ‘top 100 instances’ ? Instant improvement.
So the same people who have no problem about using other people’s copyrighted work, are now crying when the Chinese do the same to them? Find me a nano-scale violin so I can play a really sad song.
Thanks for the reply.
Naive question probably - which of these platforms would get a new creator the biggest audience?
At least this should finally put the ‘Chinese can’t innovate, they can only copy’ meme into retirement.
I’m glad this means AI’s power will become more decentralized internationally. Who would have thought it was China responsible for that?
Trumpism will pass, and gasoline cars go the way of the horse and buggy. The US will just take longer to catch up with the rest of the world’s progress.
I don’t know if its what you are looking for but futurology.today is the fediverse sibling (same Mods) as r/futurology on Reddit.
(Disclaimer I’m a Mod on it & the subreddit)
Thanks, we’ll keep track of what they are doing.
I misphrased, they are an Admin/Op, and essential.
would it be enough to have those rules in place, and when reported actively remove the content as a mod?
We’re pretty good with daily moderating of content on futurology.today, so I’d be confident we could cover that aspect.
However I’m wondering about federation issues. Are we liable for UK users who use their futurology.today account to access other instances we don’t mod?
the problem is that the guidance is too large and overbearing.
This.
Who gets to decide what “self-harm” is? There’ll be some busybodies who’ll say that any remotely positive messaging for LGBTQ youth is ‘self-harm’ for them.
Great info. Out of curiosity what does your hosting setup say about visitor numbers? Futurology.today uses Cloudflare. They give a figure of about 10k per day for what they call unique visitors. That seems unduly high when you look at how busy our lemmy instance actually is. We have just short of 1K subscribers, so I would assume visitor numbers would be lower than 10k per day.
Yes, its hard to understand. On the other hand our results on cloudflare look way too good to be true. They say the fediverse site had 180K unique visitors in its first month and almost 3 million of what it calls “total requests”.
It’s hard to figure out what this means in terms of how many people on the fediverse are seeing the content, both from our site, and where its coming up in federated instances.
and why would they? … they are pretty happy with what they have now.
Exactly. Only a very small number of people are motivated as the pioneers who’ve setup the fediverse now are. Again looking at this through the lens of r/futurology & our fediverse site. Why would a user also want to go to a second version of the exact same thing, but way, way smaller.
My hunch is that long-term the fediverse will prosper. Reddit still isn’t too bad even with these changes, at least not compared to what an absolute shithole Twitter has become.
But people who care about making it bigger, should be asking themselves hard questions - this meme comes across as very complacent & out of touch, if many people really believe the sentiments it’s expressing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/15wi75l/rfuturology_is_now_in_the_fediverse_at/
It’s hard to know exactly how many people see them from the stats Reddit gives Mods. Reddit gives a figure within the post for views, which stands at about 160,000 for the post I mentioned. That includes the times people have been served the title in their feed & and the times people clicked on it (sadly Reddit doesn’t differentiate further).
The fediverse site has been going for 6 weeks and has about 620 subscribers. My guestimate from looking at addresses in comments is that maybe 100-150 are reddit migrants. So roughly speaking 1 in 1000 r/futurology people who saw something about our fediverse site were motivated to join.
A sobering thought for people who think the fediverse is about to crush reddit.
I think fediverse people are wildly overestimating how much 99% of Reddit users care about this. The mod team on r/futurology (I’m one of them) set up a fediverse site just over a month ago (here you go - https://futurology.today/ ) It’s been modestly successful so far, but the vast majority of subscribers seem to be coming from elsewhere in the fediverse, not migrants from Reddit.
This is despite the fact we’ve permanently stickied a post to the top of the sub. r/futurology has over 19 million subscribers, and yet the fediverse is only attracting a tiny trickle of them. I doubt most people on Reddit even know what the word fediverse means.
I’d love to have more Mastodon stuff in my lemmy feed. Shame its virtually impossible as far as I can see. Do you have any idea when lemmy devs might change this?
If only there was an oompa-loompa failed businessman, aided by Russia to weaken his own country from within, who could take on such a mission - where could we find such an extraordinary person?