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  • You know that it’s possible to admit that the country has major fucking problems and also believe that apartheid is a horrible and inhuman system of oppression right?

    Yep. Which is why I did exactly that.

    To acknowledge the high incidence of violent crime in the country is entirely different than cherry picking or making up facts to support a narrow and racist agenda.

    Agreed. I’m pretty sure that acknowledging that the country DOES have serious problems happened in/from the first or second sentence in my reply to you, so it’s almost impressive that you seem to have missed it completely.

    The solution is neither a return to apartheid nor is it, obviously, the state of things now. I don’t know what the solution is, but I’d hope that it’s racially inclusive, equitable, and democratic

    Again, we agree.

    I don’t know what the solution is, but I’d hope that it’s racially inclusive, equitable, and democratic

    Same. Except I know what the start of the solution is: a worldwide diplomatic and economic boycott of Israel like we successfully did with Apartheid South Africa in the 90s.

    The regime won’t be able to continue their crimes against humanity with impunity once the economic and military support from Western allies dries up and when they are a pariah state that can’t participate in any international events and can’t sell any goods and services to the outside world either, the population WILL eventually revolt and overthrow it.


  • “Worked” is a pretty generous term to use for South Africa.

    Everything I hear about it says that it’s a borderline failed state rife with violence.

    Might want to be more critical of your sources. While there’s indeed significant problems, the extent is exaggerated to extreme degrees by white supremacists and other people who want it to return to Apartheid.

    Besides, much like the US since the civil war, conditions would be worse in the short term but MUCH better now if not for the leniency of the ANC with regards to the Apartheid regime and its enablers.

    Actually holding the Israeli apartheid regime and its enablers both domestic and international responsible for their crimes against humanity is a necessary part of the path to lasting peace and justice.