I read that “Prickly muffin” and now I’m debating on whether I should or should not watch Bojack Horseman again

Valid point, though I’m surprised that cyc was used for non-AI purposes since, in my very very limited knowledge of the project, I thought the whole thing was based around the ability to reason and infer from an encyclopedic data set.

Regardless, I suppose the original topic of this discussion is heading towards a prescriptivist vs descriptivist debate:

Should the term Artificial Intelligence have the more literal meaning it held when it first was discussed, like by Turing or in the sci-fi of Isaac Asimov?

OR

Should society’s use of the term in reference to advances in problem solving tech in general or specifically its most prevalent use in reference to any neural network or learning algorithm in general be the definition of Artificial Intelligence?

Should we shift our definition of a term based on how it is used to match popular use regardless of its original intended meaning or should we try to keep the meaning of the phrase specific/direct/literal and fight the natural shift in language?

Personally, I prefer the latter because I think keeping the meaning as close to literal as possible increases the clarity of the words and because the term AI is now thrown about so often these days as a buzzword for clicks or money, typically by people pushing lies about the capabilities or functionality of the systems they’re referring to as AI.

The lumping together of models trained by scientists to solve novel problems and the models that are using the energy of a small country to plagiarize artwork also is not something I view fondly as I’ve seen people assume the two are one in the same despite the fact one has redeeming qualities and the other is mostly bullshit.

However, it seems that many others are fine with or in support of a descriptivist definition where words have the meaning they are used for even if that meaning goes beyond their original intent or definitions.

To each their own I suppose. These preferences are opinions so there really isn’t an objectively right or wrong answer for this debate

The term “artificial intelligence” is supposed to refer to a computer simulating the actions/behavior of a human.

LLMs can mimic human communication and therefore fits the AI definition.

Generative AI for images is a much looser fit but it still fulfills a purpose that was until recently something most or thought only humans could do, so some people think it counts as AI

However some of the earliest AI’s in computer programs were just NPCs in video games, looong before deep learning became a widespread thing.

Enemies in video games (typically referring to the algorithms used for their pathfinding) are AI whether they use neural networks or not.

Deep learning neural networks are predictive mathematic models that can be tuned from data like in linear regression. This, in itself, is not AI.

Transformers are a special structure that can be implemented in a neural network to attenuate certain inputs. (This is how ChatGPT can act like it has object permanence or any sort of memory when it doesn’t) Again, this kind of predictive model is not AI any more than using Simpson’s Rule to calculate a missing coordinate in a dataset would be AI.

Neural networks can be used to mimic human actions, and when they do, that fits the definition. But the techniques and math behind the models is not AI.

The only people who refer to non-AI things as AI are people who don’t know what they’re talking about, or people who are using it as a buzzword for financial gain (in the case of most corporate executives and tech-bros it is both)

“Shut the Hell up!”

“As luck would have it, I still have the career chips of the last crew”

Reaches for envelope labeled “Contents of space wasp’s stomach”

Damnit! And bravo my friend, I guess I need to watch the whole series again

“You see nowadays we can easily take a unique and beautiful object and easily reduce it to a formula for mass production, I call the process science”

Nope, gen z, and I haven’t actually read any of the Harry Potter books myself.

But you’re on the right track; I think it was reading The Hobbit that did me in lol

Well, that doesn’t make it clearer so I’m guessing it’s an episode from the new(ish) seasons that I haven’t gotten around to watching yet

When I am talking about fibrous material, like individual strands of carbon in a composite, I naturally type “fibre” but when I talk about nutrition or the internet it’s “fiber”

I also tend to spell armor armour and color colour despite being American.

Oh and I write grey instead of gray.

I also catch myself writing units like metre and litre instead of meter and liter sometimes.

It really all depends on if there’s a spellchecker turned on that will tell me I’m spelling things wrong.

Damn, I think this is the first one (that I’ve seen) that I haven’t been able to guess and find a quote for.

My first guess was Leela and the Genestalk, which from the other comments seems incorrect.

Second was beast with a billion backs but I don’t think yivo actually leaves many suction marks mostly just “Yivo touched me in a bad place, my spinal cord!”

From the hint in the comments that they were indeed tentacle marks, I thought maybe it was a head in the polls where Fry activates the thought activated “magic tentacles” of the hotel bed, but I don’t think those leave marks and fry is wearing black in that scene not his red jacket.

The only other one I could think of was Farewell to Arms in which leela gets covered in tentacle marks from the monster in the puddle but if I recall correctly in the next scene fry is only wearing his underwear, no red jacket.

I have been beaten but as a wise old polygamist once said: “You can crush me but you can never crush my spirit! … Ahh my spirit!”

If anyone wants to read up more on “Governments were formed and exist to protect property rights” you might want to read The State and Revolution. It is pretty short and very relevant to this discussion

I grew up in a small Utah town. The only four adults I ever remember hearing admit they were wrong especially when it came to politics or science or religion were my father and three of my high school teachers.

All the rest would literally tell me that the research papers and encyclopedias I tried to cite as evidence were made up by either satan or some government deep state conspiracy. Or they’d say we can “agree to disagree” about shit like animals feeling pain and the flaws in eugenics (I wish I was joking)

Yes, they have always been this stupid. Learning requires accepting when you’re wrong and the vast majority of people I knew growing up saw that as weakness.

I thought it would be different when I got out of that place, and while living in a larger city is better, it’s not better by all that much.

“That’s coming out of your pay!” Hermes says to Zoidberg after Leela obliterates the ceiling during lift off.

This is why you can taste/smell saline when it’s injected. Trace amounts of dissolved things (which taste like plastic and metal) in the saline are able to pass through the alveoli in the lungs and evaporate into your breath.

Oddly, I think it’s a similar thing with my ADHD meds because about an hour or two after taking them my breath smells/tastes weird.

What? You’re not made of Tuesday

Could you expand on what you mean by modular web technologies? Also when would you say the shift over from interoperable web technologies to one-stop-shop happened?

I’m relatively young and wasn’t really allowed on the internet, but from what I remember (trying to build websites on the old family computer in the basement lol) there were lots of issues with browsers not working with the same CSS properties circa 2016. Then again I had no idea what I was doing at the time so maybe it wasn’t so bad.

YouTube seemed to start going down hill shortly after that, followed swiftly by other apps and sites.

Basically as soon as I got consistent internet access it seemed like the internet was getting worse, but it seemed like lots of interoperability/compatibility issues were resolved over the decline in quality of the content of the net.

Again, I didn’t have much experience with the old net so I want to know your perspective

While fitting, there are many more things in life besides the internet could be called “capitalism fucked up everything.” Better to call it “capitalism fucked over the net” otherwise people could call Healthcare, climate change, fascism, most wars, pollution, etc. Web3.0 which might be confusing lol

Valid, and good shirt idea, but turning web3.0 into a derogatory term for corpo shit would be the opposite of marketing language yes?

I recently had to install windows for a research project and the fact the “latest version” i downloaded moments before needed to update while installing and then again needed to update twice after it was installed pissed me off way more than it should.

Also gotta love that my laptop can go 5+hrs on a charge with arch and xfce but lasts less than 2hrs on windows.

I recently made a decision to transfer colleges in order to save my mental health. This meant I’d have to take on a few student loans, but with FAFSA it still felt manageable, and it has significantly improved my life.

However, If financial assistance from the government drops, the chances I will be able to afford school long enough to graduate drop significantly too.

I’m not super jazzed about that; though, I still think the transfer was worth it.

Oh yeah, also, I just recently got medicated for ADHD and it’s what’s let me start to pull my life together, but adderall might get banned so… rip me.

Maybe I’ll take up smoking lol. I mean that as a joke, but what a world when clinically safe, prescribed meds might get banned but literal cancer causing, heavy metal filled, habit forming drugs are going to be legal forever…

Cheers mates, couldn’t have asked for a better seat to watch the final fall of America and possibly the rest of the world. Good luck to all of you who’ll last longer than me.