Mentions of quote-shares · Issue #11441 · friendica/friendica
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Is the feature request related to a problem? Please describe. Quote-sharing is a well working and good looking way of including citations to other posts and comments. However, I am thinking it is a...

I recently started thinking again about the Social knowledge fabrics discussion, and it seems to me that one of the biggest obstacles for fedi to become one is the following. The things we refer to as “threads” are actually “branches of a tree”. You have a trunk, basically the whole fedi, each post is a branch, each branch can itself ramify into branches, but all the branches stay independent.

It would be useful if a discussion branch was not only shaped like a thread, but also had the usefulness of one : sewing, or tying together different discussion topics. Sometimes I think again about an old discussion when participating in a new one, and so I cite it. But this message is still fundamentally part of the new discussion, while the newly established link should be of equal interest to participants of both threads.

What we miss is for that message to be part of both conversations, or a clear way to automatically signify to both threads that something new happens. Of course, this can be done by hand, writing a comment in each cited branch to point to the new one. But we won’t remeber to do that everytime, or we will not want to “necrobump”, or we just don’t want to make the extra effort. So it would be interesting if the relations were established automatically. For example the way I proposed for Friendica’s quote-shares in the linked URL, or the way GitHub handles issue that cite each other.

Maybe two old topics will come to know about each other that way, effectively being sewed by the new thread.

  • Liwott
    2•2 years ago

    you might send me an Invite{ac:Citation}

    Oh, like the “ref needed” box on Wikipedia? Academic citation was also the main example I had in mind when first asking about backlinks, but I didn’t see the need for an extra relation, thanks for that !

    Quite similarly I think, there could be Like{ac:citation}, that can be used in particular by the author of the cited medium to show whether or not they endorse the way their work is referred to

    • smallcirclesM
      1•2 years ago

      Yes, exactly. Though in those extensions there should be careful thought about the semantics that are used in the vocabulary definition. So Like may work, but you might consider having ac:Endorse{ac:Citation} instead. Especially if there’s a fallback to show this in regular microblogging timelines you’d have random fedizens liking, and accredited academics endorsing.

      • Liwott
        1•2 years ago

        Is there a semantic difference between liking and endorsing from the sender’s point of view? From your comment it seems to me that the only differences are in the nature of the sender, and how much they are trusted by the receiver. In this case, it may as well be the receiver’s job to filter likes according to who sends them and treat them accordingly.

        But yeah I get your general point that vacabulary should not be chosen too fast

        • smallcirclesM
          3•2 years ago

          Note that I just came up with a rather random example. Though maybe inspired by @GrassrootsReview@lemmy.ml who is interested in evaluating the use of AP for similar use cases.

          But yes, there could be such distinction that is relevant from sender’s perspective. Such as: “I Like this citation on first glance, and after reviewing I may Endorse it.”