‘Nato’s going to become very strong with us,’ says US president, as secretary general calls him ‘daddy’

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    5% is Insanity. That’s right now 50% of the German State Budget.

    Have they all gone stupid?

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      It’s actually not the worst idea, 5% is a lot, way more than needed, but it’s pretty decent to play catch up.

      EU states are pretty far behind with their militaries, pumping it to 5% for a few years and dropping it back to 2-3% when we’re caught up with other superpowers seems like a good idea.

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        Which other super powers are going to attack us??

        We will never spend enough to defend against USA, and China is not going invade us first.

        And Russia just proved that it is a laughing stock that can’t even conquer Ukraine with conventional weapons.

        And surprise: against nuclear weapons everything is useless. And France and UK still have them themselves.

        I’m all for modernising our armies, especially the German one. But that doesn’t need more money thrown into the fire, but a big change on organisational structure.

        And half our tax income that goes away? That is money away from school, poor people, everyone! Except the owners of military industrial companies.

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          Russia has the support of China, otherwise they would’ve lost already, so the answer to your question is china via russia. Because we are competitors, it makes sense for them to have russia bleed us economically.

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      Why is that insane?

      No one says you can’t also raise the state budget in general. No one says you can’t make new debts to pay for it.

      Neoliberals have simply manufactured too much consent to normalize austerity and demonize deficit spending.

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        Where should the 200-300 billion for Germany for example come from? Don’t say debt, because that is not answering the question since it is not sustainable.

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          Debt is sustainable as long as it doesn’t outpace GDP growth. Debt is how the world has run since global markets and capitalism. Only since the rise of neoliberalism have debts been cursed and politicians would rather let their countries stagnate with a lack of investments.

          If you really want more income, you can always squeeze the super rich and multi-national corporations. And prevent them from leaving the country with draconic punishments. One thing that China does well in that regard is that any billionaire who does not follow, will be disappeared. That is the only way to treat those thieves.