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As a Norwegian of some age, this entire case was one of the most jarring news stories I’ve encountered.
Imagine following the news in the early 2000s. Our crown prince found love among the (extremely) common people, and got married to a woman who had a small child. Royalist tightbutts are pissing themselves at the breach of tradition but the rest of the country is charmed by the heartwarming love affair.
News plastered for months and months of of a couple in love, and Marius the cuutest tiny blonde litte boy barely out of diapers and being adorable everywhere. And it fades out.
20-something years pass, and news are going on about something “Marius Høiby…”
Omg! I remember him! He was the cutes- WHAT THE FUCK
I hate that our media has started dishing out any and all details including heresay for months when some court case or investigation of notoriety is going on. If it is a missing billionaires wife, a raping gynocologist, resurfacing of the same 30 year old murdered kids every 3 years or whatnot it is at the top of the newspapers for months. I don’t want to read about that shit.
I don’t want assholes to get famous after doing illegal shenanigans. I would much rather read news about a farmer saving his horse. Or even shaving his horse which auto correct wanted me to type for that matter.
hearsay*
*horseay
Horsey :D
BLASPHEMER!!!
Neigh
Why people so whinney?
Imagine not being able to blame Russia this time? FUCK indeed.
In Norway we call him Temu-Joffrey.
Perfect !
Frankly, I wish we just abolished the damn monarchy already. I hate that we still have kings and queens in a democratic country even if they are just ceremonial. They don’t deserve all this media attention just because they got a lucky birth
Treat all of them as one would any other citizen and be done with it. Unfortunately, the monarchy still faces popular support towards existing, though I hope it changes sooner or later
The birth doesn’t even have any relevance to be part of a royal family. I might remember this wrong, but last time I was in Stockholm I went to the armoury museum or whatever its called. There was a small tidbit almost hidden in some big paragraph about a Swedish royal who had no kids and therefore no heir. He went ahead and just adopted a random French general (I think) who then by extension became a real royal person.
I actually just looked it up now, it was a Swedish king who had no children, adopted this French guy, who then became Swedish king himself: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_XIV_John
So from then on the Swedish royal family wasn’t technically Swedish anymore? I didn’t check who he married and had kids with though.
The Swedish royal family ain’t Swedish. The British royal family ain’t British. Everyone else is British, because Queen Victoria had two hundred kids, and half of them died of a papercut.
They don’t deserve all this media attention just because they got a lucky birth
While I agree with you in principle, this guy in particular didn’t have a lucky birth. His parents were not aristocrats, his father is a felon and didn’t stick around, his mother raised him alone at first. His grandparents on the mothers side are divorced and his grandpa is also a felon.
However when he was four and a half his mother married into the royal house. So he would have had a privileged upbringing from then on. So he’s still super fucked up, to piss it into the wind with violent crime.
I hear America’s rape-friendly “aristocracy” is looking for more recruits
Bitch please. Eurotrash royalty invented getting away with rape.🤣
I hate to judge a book by its cover but…
I was thinking he looks almost too much like what some bad movie would cast as a eurotrash douche villain.
I mean… He do be a real life euro trash douche villain. Maybe he looked at those characters and was like: You know what? I like this style.
his face has something uncanny about him
some kind of birth defect or just extreme drug abuse for years?
this is shitty but it seems like a moment to see how Norway’s corrective model for justice will work in an extreme case. I hope Norway can follow through with what they’ve been trying to do here
I didn’t know Malfoy was royalty.
Malfoy family is coded as aristocratic one tbf.
he has a very punchable face. look at that smug pampered asshole.
Resting rape face
He has Resting Rape Face.
Why is it always the ones you most expect?
Prediction: Zero time in jail.
Høiby’s status as part of the royal family, he added, would “not mean that he is treated more leniently or strictly than if similar acts were committed by others”.
We’ll see about that.
I dunno man
Hoiby does not have a royal title and is outside the line of royal succession. The Norwegian royal court said: “It is for the courts to consider this matter and reach a decision. We have no further comment.”
It sounds like they hate the brat too lol.
At least from the folks I’ve talked to he is not well-liked
“Our client denies all charges of sexual abuse, as well as the majority of the charges regarding violence. He will present a detailed account of his version of events before the court.”
“Look. Now. Listen, let me explain. I only violently abused them a little bit. We’ve all done that. Right? It was just a tiny bit of violence!!”
He already publicly apologized for hitting his ex while high on coke, so he can’t deny everything.
Høiby is alleged to have raped four women between 2018 and November 2024. All the alleged assaults allegedly took place after consensual intercourse while the women were sleeping.
I hope this goes better than Assange’s trial went.
Please read and and try to understand my point, I know that what follows may be controversial. I 110% agree that no one should be forced into acts which it doesn’t desire, and that the guy is a proven douche, but is it rape if it was in the frame of consensual sex? I love getting woken up by sexy stuff.
Does getting in bed for a night of sex have to have a written out menu, script or 15 page contract? I can clearly discern between a soft, coy or giggly no, and a hard no, and don’t think I could force a woman to have sex with me (I find the concept so abhorrent I’d probably go limp). I’m the type that ensures “she’s had her fill (pun intended?) before I finish the meal”
I think that if someone has gotten in bed with you for sex, and stays, it could be safe to assume they are open to more. Maybe he didn’t acknowledge a serious “No!” I don’t know.
Also, it may be good to keep in mind what one of the old time heroic feminists, Greer, from the 60s-70s said that “often rape isn’t, it’s bad sex”.
What the fuck
Yes, you should very much talk about whether stuff like this is okay to do to someone else before you do it. You can’t consent when you sleep, so you must get full consent beforehand.
And yes, you should typically ask whether doing something is okay before you do it, in general. Communication is good, it won’t hurt anyone.
And no, it isn’t safe to just assume anything. Ask! That’s really all there is to it. Ask and accept a “no”. Ideally you also check in a few times underway. It leads to better sex.
My mindset comes from the kink community, where generally most things are permissable, but so long as consent stays in front and centre. Unless you have agreed beforehand to treat it otherwise, stuff like a “giggly no” is a no. Well, specifically you’d have safe words such as “red”, but I assume that’s not the case here.
In short though, don’t just assume anything of the other person, ask them, and allow them to talk.
stuff like a “giggly no” is a no.
Thank you for explicitly bringing this up.
If two people are not actually explicitly communicating, then both of them are making assumptions. I’ve slept over at other people’s places because I’ve stayed late and the last bus/train has already left, because I’ve suddenly felt really tired and didn’t want to bother/didn’t feel safe to drive, because it was closer to work the next day, and, yes, because we fell asleep after sex. And absolutely none of that was consent for someone to start having sex with me while I was sleeping. Which is why communicating with your partners is important.
Just because you like being woken up by sexy times doesn’t mean everyone enjoys it. As an example, someone who has been previously been raped or attempted raped might not appreciate it - which happens to be one out of every four woman in the United States.
And the 12% of all women in the US who were raped by an “intimate partner” will likely particularly not appreciate it.
It’s also likely that some of the 81% of US women who have suffered sexual harassment might have some problem with it. So, y’know, maybe you should start explicitly asking before having sex with someone, even if you did have sex earlier that night.
