Which part of this image is right-wing propaganda in your opinion? All the statements on the top are true as far as I know. And it is also true that the western media ignores these facts, and focuses on the war with Nazi Germany. And usually even ignoring the eastern front, or the Japanese atrocities.
The meaning of the pic is that the Allies were portrayed by bourgeois propaganda as anti-fascist, while in fact they collaborated with them behind the scenes. Read carefully.
First of all it is extremely miss-leading (even though probably factually true). All of it either happened before or after the fighting, when the situation was different (and in hindsight is always easy to condemn things).
But the real give-away is that it is a thinly veiled attack on western media, while saying nothing good about communism or anything bad about naziism. This is pretty much a staple of right-wing Russian propaganda, that has been co-opting anti-capitalist slogans and is more then happy to abuse communist terms.
Edit: If you easily identify something as propaganda, then it isn’t targeted at you. The dangerous propaganda is the one that seems true when not thinking too much about it.
By framing you mean the title? Because otherwise there is no frame or context at all. So it seems to be more about your interpretation. You are right that those events happened before/after the actual war, but they are still closely related to it.
And yes it is a criticism of western media, nothing wrong with that. It certainly doesnt require any statements about communism or nazism. I also dont see any slogans here, so that statement looks like pure Russophobia (which the same western media is also promoting).
Propaganda in the original sense of the words is basically everything that promotes specific political views. So this meme can definitely be considered propaganda, just like all other political memes. What I dont understand is why you consider it right-wing. Just because you disagree?
It’s not that I disagree, but rather that this is textbook spin-doctoring (perfected by modern right-wing Russian propaganda, but also used by others).
Once you go down the path of “see they were all equally bad” or the closely related whataboutism, it is only a small step towards openly promoting fascism as the “least bad” option, which is the end-game of such propaganda.
Sorry but this is not russophobia at all, in fact I quite like Russian people/culture. But it is an apt description of a tactic employed by modern right-wing spin-doctors that originated in Russia and is employed by Russian state-propaganda a lot.
You are painting Russia as the “bad guy” when its not even mentioned in the image, just vaguely connected through your questionable interpretation of it. What is that if not russophobia? But it makes sense, as you are also defending the same capitalist media which promotes russophobia day in and day out.
Again, I have nothing against Russians… but this style of propaganda was developed by them first and was and is widely deployed by their state-propaganda. Its like calling someone Sinophobe because they point out that certain Chinese dishes that they don’t like were in fact invented by Chinese people.
P.S.: I criticize western media a lot… but equating them with Nazis or Nazi-apologists is not an honest criticism.
Which part of this image is right-wing propaganda in your opinion? All the statements on the top are true as far as I know. And it is also true that the western media ignores these facts, and focuses on the war with Nazi Germany. And usually even ignoring the eastern front, or the Japanese atrocities.
The meaning of the pic is that the Allies were portrayed by bourgeois propaganda as anti-fascist, while in fact they collaborated with them behind the scenes. Read carefully.
It’s the framing.
First of all it is extremely miss-leading (even though probably factually true). All of it either happened before or after the fighting, when the situation was different (and in hindsight is always easy to condemn things).
But the real give-away is that it is a thinly veiled attack on western media, while saying nothing good about communism or anything bad about naziism. This is pretty much a staple of right-wing Russian propaganda, that has been co-opting anti-capitalist slogans and is more then happy to abuse communist terms.
Edit: If you easily identify something as propaganda, then it isn’t targeted at you. The dangerous propaganda is the one that seems true when not thinking too much about it.
By framing you mean the title? Because otherwise there is no frame or context at all. So it seems to be more about your interpretation. You are right that those events happened before/after the actual war, but they are still closely related to it.
And yes it is a criticism of western media, nothing wrong with that. It certainly doesnt require any statements about communism or nazism. I also dont see any slogans here, so that statement looks like pure Russophobia (which the same western media is also promoting).
Propaganda in the original sense of the words is basically everything that promotes specific political views. So this meme can definitely be considered propaganda, just like all other political memes. What I dont understand is why you consider it right-wing. Just because you disagree?
It’s not that I disagree, but rather that this is textbook spin-doctoring (perfected by modern right-wing Russian propaganda, but also used by others).
Once you go down the path of “see they were all equally bad” or the closely related whataboutism, it is only a small step towards openly promoting fascism as the “least bad” option, which is the end-game of such propaganda.
You are interpreting a lot into this meme, no clue where you take all that from. The unrelated russophobia isnt helping either.
Sorry but this is not russophobia at all, in fact I quite like Russian people/culture. But it is an apt description of a tactic employed by modern right-wing spin-doctors that originated in Russia and is employed by Russian state-propaganda a lot.
You are painting Russia as the “bad guy” when its not even mentioned in the image, just vaguely connected through your questionable interpretation of it. What is that if not russophobia? But it makes sense, as you are also defending the same capitalist media which promotes russophobia day in and day out.
Again, I have nothing against Russians… but this style of propaganda was developed by them first and was and is widely deployed by their state-propaganda. Its like calling someone Sinophobe because they point out that certain Chinese dishes that they don’t like were in fact invented by Chinese people.
P.S.: I criticize western media a lot… but equating them with Nazis or Nazi-apologists is not an honest criticism.