• plu@lemmy.ml
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    3 years ago

    Why not blame the capitalist industrialists that cut corners there, then, and not regular ass proletarians with cars?

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      3 years ago

      I’m not saying I hate people who own cars. In many places owning a car is a necessity. I am saying that I hate cars, and by extension car companies/lobbiests. I think cars serve little to no place in a good society.

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        3 years ago

        the only problem is cars provide a lot of freedom in the sense of ability to deal with the world around us. transportation of individuals or goods or trash. other forms of infrastructure, such as trains, limits a lot on where and how you live your life.

        i don’t own a car nor do i have a driving license. i live in the middle of nowhere, 8km from nearest town, smack on the middle of the arctic circle. and do have access to great public transportation system (bus pass by once every 2 hours, about 30 minutes walk from the house). but when it’s -30°C outside. or when i need to transport goods such as food supplies or live animals (i keep tropical ornamental fish). or when (like this summer) i had to throw a lot of rotten wood and panels while renovating my house (not to mention transporting new materials). i can’t use the bus. even if there was a train, i wouldn’t had been able to use that for any of this. the only reason i can make do at all is because my neighbor (who lives 2km away) has a car and a wagon.

        i just can’t see a feasible alternative to cars that wouldn’t completely congest any public transportation system when just trying to live life, without access to cars. i mean, unless we rollback time and make modern personal mini-blimps a thing. that would be awesome. i’d be okay with that. let’s do that.

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        3 years ago

        Okay, fair enough, I can see that, but it’s pretty obvious the large majority of this thread and ‘anti-car’ people in general just don’t think that far and instead just project hate on perceived “selfish” car drivers.

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          3 years ago

          I do hate the small subset of drivers that are very anti-bike and act like they are better than everyone. They’re assholes and deserve the hate.