Eh… The PSL is less of a political party and more of a political “think tank” funded by Neville Singham. The entire party is basically just the host of BreakThrough News.
Which I don’t really mind the left having a think tank funded by a billionaire, I just wish they did more than self promote such a small pool of people and didn’t represent themselves as an actual political party.
Despite claiming that they have representation in over 50 cities, they lack any kind of physical fingerprint outside of NYC. And despite being based out of NYC but have been completely silent on the mayoral race.
Local branches get up to a lot more than what happens at the national level, plus a lot of the work is done behind the scenes. There’s more than just NYC, the local chapters do good work.
I’m guessing there’s a bit of a difference between chapters? The closest one to me doesn’t seem to do much but sporadically organize protests.
There’s also been a lot of accusations of coverups of sexual assault and anti trans biase over the years. I mean at least bad enough to have its own section in the prolewiki.
There’s decent variance. The ones I have experience with have all been pro-trans, with queer membership. Allegations do exist, but it doesn’t appear to be beyond a local level. Talk to your local directly.
With all that money against leftists, leftists couldn’t race head to head with the right wing in the USA. So I don’t think they are against you either.
Leftists are not racing head to head with the right wing in the US Empire. The DNC and GOP are both right-wing, leftism is largely found in smaller parties like PSL.
No they don’t. They only support making money and cornering markets for themselves. They’ll take corporate socialism and using the law to crush opinions. The idea that they “support” anything ideological is utterly wrong.
Anticipating somebody’s response:
Exactly. You just described liberalism.
No I didn’t. Corporations have no ideology. It’s pure warfare and there are no rules or values beyond making money for themselves, not on any larger societal scale. They’re just algorithms for increasing profit.
to distract from them trampling over workers rights.
“Corporate socialism” does not exist. Corporations push liberalism as a part of cultural hegemony, as does the state. Capital does not care about anything but profit, but cultural hegemony is the means to protect property relations.
Corporate socialism is when the government gives them our tax dollars to totalize top-down control. That’s not liberalism, that’s just power. They’ll trample “liberalism” to make a dollar.
That’s not what socialism is to begin with, that’s just the state within capitalism affirming corporate power, which is a part of liberalism. “Liberalism” has always generally been that which affirms capitalism, ideologically, it isn’t a moral code.
Using taxes for things isn’t socialism, socialism is a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy.
“Liberalism” has always generally been that which affirms capitalism
That’s one function of it (in context) but that’s not the definition. That’s not “what it is.” Also, these corporations would trample capitalism itself to gain more power.
socialism is a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy.
I’m not talking about socialism, I’m talking about corporate socialism, which is not a form of socialism. It’s a term which demonstrates how anti-liberal and anti-meritocratic and even anti-capitalist the top-down government-corporate control network is.
Because they all support diversity, equity, woke etc, which are leftist movements in the USA. They advertise for positions always stating these movements. Why do you think they support the right wing?
Corporations support whichever way the wind is blowing. They don’t care about ethics, they care about money.
For a long time in the western world, diversity was considered good PR, so that’s what they did. It builds up as corporations compete with each other to be the most diverse, the most as you might call it ‘woke’.
Now since the wind in the US is blowing the other way, some western corporations are following suit, some will follow the EU’s lead and keep diversity but at a lower level.
That’s just a surface level analysis. The moment LGBT people started being accepted, not because of people’s benevolence but because of much fighting and struggle to be accepted and recognized, capitalism realized that we could be marketed to, that we were just another profit source, so it started reacting accordingly, that’s why terms like Rainbow Capitalism exists.
You can easily see this every pride month were companies will change their logos to pride themed ones, unless it’s in a country where being LGBT is illegal. We are only a concern as long as we are profitable.
Furthermore it is not that companies are inherently right wing, but rather that they are a part of capitalism which is in itself a right wing system.
These companies aren’t supporting the end of capitalism. They subsume and coopt socially progressive movements to better support their own profits. Capital does this with anything, it doesn’t care about what the message or movement is, which is why many companies are tuning back progressive messaging in the current social climate.
In addition to people differentiating between leftism and liberalism:
Capital has the ability to subsume all critiques into itself. Even those who would critique capital end up reinforcing it instead…
Communists are allowed to post on YouTube because YouTube gets ad revenue off of their content without meaningfully changing our ability to actually affect change, at least from YouTube’s perspective.
They support identity politics to keep people at each others’ throats (divide and conquer by identity) while cloaking themselves in empty rhetoric (nominal “support”) that makes them look moral but accomplishes nothing beyond identity-division.
That makes sense but I have always related them with the USA leftists as they support LGBT, woke, Palestine supporters. Just one time Microsoft supported Israel for a very short period but other than that… But what you say wasn’t something I considered. I will keep it in mind
Why are big companies like Google and Microsoft supportive for leftists if leftists in the USA want to destroy capitalism? It’s weird.
Ever heard of ‘rainbow capitalism’?
Man could you imagine if we had Google/MS bucks behind us? Instead it’s like 30 people with $2 between us.
Google and Microsoft do not support the left at all.
Orgs like PSL seem to be doing well!
Eh… The PSL is less of a political party and more of a political “think tank” funded by Neville Singham. The entire party is basically just the host of BreakThrough News.
Which I don’t really mind the left having a think tank funded by a billionaire, I just wish they did more than self promote such a small pool of people and didn’t represent themselves as an actual political party.
Despite claiming that they have representation in over 50 cities, they lack any kind of physical fingerprint outside of NYC. And despite being based out of NYC but have been completely silent on the mayoral race.
Local branches get up to a lot more than what happens at the national level, plus a lot of the work is done behind the scenes. There’s more than just NYC, the local chapters do good work.
I’m guessing there’s a bit of a difference between chapters? The closest one to me doesn’t seem to do much but sporadically organize protests.
There’s also been a lot of accusations of coverups of sexual assault and anti trans biase over the years. I mean at least bad enough to have its own section in the prolewiki.
There’s decent variance. The ones I have experience with have all been pro-trans, with queer membership. Allegations do exist, but it doesn’t appear to be beyond a local level. Talk to your local directly.
With all that money against leftists, leftists couldn’t race head to head with the right wing in the USA. So I don’t think they are against you either.
Leftists are not racing head to head with the right wing in the US Empire. The DNC and GOP are both right-wing, leftism is largely found in smaller parties like PSL.
Lol in what universe is this true?
They support liberalism, not leftism.
They like making a big deal out of their tokenistic support of LGBT/BIPOC/etc, to distract from them trampling over workers rights.
No they don’t. They only support making money and cornering markets for themselves. They’ll take corporate socialism and using the law to crush opinions. The idea that they “support” anything ideological is utterly wrong.
Anticipating somebody’s response:
No I didn’t. Corporations have no ideology. It’s pure warfare and there are no rules or values beyond making money for themselves, not on any larger societal scale. They’re just algorithms for increasing profit.
100% yes
“Corporate socialism” does not exist. Corporations push liberalism as a part of cultural hegemony, as does the state. Capital does not care about anything but profit, but cultural hegemony is the means to protect property relations.
Corporate socialism is when the government gives them our tax dollars to totalize top-down control. That’s not liberalism, that’s just power. They’ll trample “liberalism” to make a dollar.
That’s not what socialism is to begin with, that’s just the state within capitalism affirming corporate power, which is a part of liberalism. “Liberalism” has always generally been that which affirms capitalism, ideologically, it isn’t a moral code.
Using taxes for things isn’t socialism, socialism is a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy.
But that’s what corporate socialism is
That’s one function of it (in context) but that’s not the definition. That’s not “what it is.” Also, these corporations would trample capitalism itself to gain more power.
I’m not talking about socialism, I’m talking about corporate socialism, which is not a form of socialism. It’s a term which demonstrates how anti-liberal and anti-meritocratic and even anti-capitalist the top-down government-corporate control network is.
I lost brain cells reading this.
Why do you believe big companies support leftists?
Because they all support diversity, equity, woke etc, which are leftist movements in the USA. They advertise for positions always stating these movements. Why do you think they support the right wing?
Corporations support whichever way the wind is blowing. They don’t care about ethics, they care about money.
For a long time in the western world, diversity was considered good PR, so that’s what they did. It builds up as corporations compete with each other to be the most diverse, the most as you might call it ‘woke’.
Now since the wind in the US is blowing the other way, some western corporations are following suit, some will follow the EU’s lead and keep diversity but at a lower level.
So what? Diversity and equity is still good. Why not have both? Diversity and worker’s rights?
That’s just a surface level analysis. The moment LGBT people started being accepted, not because of people’s benevolence but because of much fighting and struggle to be accepted and recognized, capitalism realized that we could be marketed to, that we were just another profit source, so it started reacting accordingly, that’s why terms like Rainbow Capitalism exists.
You can easily see this every pride month were companies will change their logos to pride themed ones, unless it’s in a country where being LGBT is illegal. We are only a concern as long as we are profitable.
Furthermore it is not that companies are inherently right wing, but rather that they are a part of capitalism which is in itself a right wing system.
They feign social progressivism while affirming right-wing economics, which is the peak of liberalism.
These companies aren’t supporting the end of capitalism. They subsume and coopt socially progressive movements to better support their own profits. Capital does this with anything, it doesn’t care about what the message or movement is, which is why many companies are tuning back progressive messaging in the current social climate.
In addition to people differentiating between leftism and liberalism:
Communists are allowed to post on YouTube because YouTube gets ad revenue off of their content without meaningfully changing our ability to actually affect change, at least from YouTube’s perspective.
They support identity politics to keep people at each others’ throats (divide and conquer by identity) while cloaking themselves in empty rhetoric (nominal “support”) that makes them look moral but accomplishes nothing beyond identity-division.
That makes sense but I have always related them with the USA leftists as they support LGBT, woke, Palestine supporters. Just one time Microsoft supported Israel for a very short period but other than that… But what you say wasn’t something I considered. I will keep it in mind
If you’re not woke, you’re asleep.
Corporations absolutely do not support Palestine, especially not big tech companies. They often deal directly with Israeli intelligence.