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    Imagine looking at the secret police rounding people up and sending them to camps and thinking “Yeah, more of that please.” Absolutely fucking horrifying to see that people like that exist and aren’t so deeply mired in shame for being the way that they are that they’re comfortable expressing those opinions aloud.

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      Headlines linking Black people and SNAP decrease white support for SNAP even amongst white people who use SNAP.

      At a certain point, white Americans get the country they deserve. When the same trick has worked continuously since Bacon’s rebellion, you all need to figure out what is wrong with your communities.

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    I’m actually shocked neither of them brought up queer people.

    But yeah “I’m pleased with ICE”, what a ghoul. Even if you support their goals, surely what they’re doing can be viewed at as best a necessary evil. I certainly don’t find the videos pleasant to watch at all.

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      What has the Trump admin done to queer people? They talk a big game, but I’m pretty sure that nonsense happens at the state level. Then again, there’s been a firehose of nonsense at the fed level that I probably missed something.

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    I just love that fitness bro Evan and 55 year old Edna can hang out and converse over their shared hatred of brown people

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    Oh no ANTIFA, the mightiest terrorist organization on the planet very scary

    If you’re not supporting ANTIFA, you’re FA

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    I find it horrific that people can say this ugly shit out loud “pleased with ICE”… how does “being happy” with dehumanizing other people make you happy ?

    I need to throw up and have a long shower.

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      I bet if I sent this to either one of my parents, they’d be like, “yeah? me too.”

      I am super glad even as I came from white cis parents into a white cis town, I rolled homo and got the minority perspective because otherwise I’d be one of them. My mom really believes “democrats buy off blacks with welfare so they keep voting for them” and other such mind-bogglers I can’t anymore.

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        This is the problem with people who don’t understand social control. Welfare is not a handout from Democrats, it is a mechanism of social control the government uses.

        People are so brainwashed they don’t understand the issues anymore. I wonder why Fox News doesn’t tell the the truth.

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        Not always true, I’m white, cis, and straight born to conservative Christian parents but fell out of that line of thinking by my teenage years. A lot of it really was just learning and understanding history and politics. Making friends with black kids early on might have helped as well.

        As long as you are intelligent you likely would have figured it out on your own.

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          I know I was figuring it out myself even before I had any idea I was queer. This was back in 2018 or 19 when the big outrage was Ukraine aid being held hostage. It took until the second term for me to no longer be civil with anybody who did support Trump. Figuring out that I was queer just put another nail in the coffin that was already sealed shut

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      Maybe the issue is that we continually insist on humanizing words and actions like this, and by extension, the people that generate them. Or at least, assuming that the origin of these kinds of thoughts is kin to us.

      Studies of the typical C level boardroom execs show a distinct inclination towards sociopathy or outright psycopathy. Monetary success is the reward for empathy-free ruthlessness, and money is the means to spread your genes (a lukewarm hello to Elon and his bound concubines). There is a selection pressure for being less empathetic. Less sentient and conscious of one’s actions when framed in a larger context of their effects on others.

      This is (to me at least) evidence that they are either at best, maladapted humans, or at worse then initial offshoot of a less empathetic subspecies. We’re not privy to recognize the intersections and points-of-no-return in any given species’ evolution in nature. We tend to organize it all into a neat tree so we can teach it in biology.

      But once, long ago, we had cousins in the genus Homo. It’s pretty myopic to think our branch won’t ever bifurcate ever again: of course it will (has?).

      (Heavy sigh).

      I don’t know what this says about how we should treat this type of… disorder, from an ethical, empathetic or fitness position. Or about me. Probably enough to make a therapist weep openly about all of it.

      At some point though, species eventually compete, but I suppose the silver lining is we’ll eventually be unable to produce fertile offspring with conservatives, and they will haaaaate that.

      I’m also not advocating that we de-humanize them (a subspecies is still in the same species!), but we shouldn’t kid ourselves about a) all being animals that evolved and b) how we’re thought of by them.

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    “I am pleased with the results on the border.”

    How are these people calling themselves Christians?

    Photo of migrant detention centers. Basically a cage with too many people inside

    This is where unlucky asylum seekers have to stay between 2 days to more than half a year. People entering as legally.

    You can’t bring any items like a book inside and you can’t leave except for food time in cafetaria like some prison with no yard-time. Just sit still and sleep until we process your papers in 4 months.

    Ours had walls instead of cage thankfully but toilet was inside with no door. This was the conditions in 2018.

    “Pleased” said the love-thy-neighbor Christian, “satisfied.”

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    Linda at the bottom there “I am pleased with the extralegal concentration camps, mass deportations, and arrest/abduction of citizens who just aren’t white enough. The jackbooted thugs with no legal oversight or accountability are great. But what else has he done for me lately?”

    Fucking fascist ghoul

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      The trouble is that, despite noticing that everything else is a lie, they still believe that ICE is only deporting people who ‘deserve it’, rather than paying any attention to the constant reports of ICE throwing people who are legally in the USA in vans and disappearing them.

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      That was my favorite part too.

      “I haven’t noticed any real difference!” What… were you expecting?

      Hopefully her kids are embarrassed of her already and her legacy is “clueless dumbfuck”

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    These people are entirely motivated by hate. I knew that, but it’s kinda wild to see them admit it like this.

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    I missed the ANTIFA riots. I guess Evan and I don’t get our news from the same sources.

    It’s amazing that this administration is so spectacularly bad that even its propaganda machine can’t hide it.

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      Worse, the antifa riots rethoric is held against them. It looks like people start to wonder why these riots were allowed to start under the current administration.

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        And who spells it in all caps? What does each letter stand for, Evan? Is it an acronym, or a portmanteau of anti-fascism? Evan is losing me, to be honest 😒

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      Did you not see the dancing dinosaurs, grannies, naked cyclists, and the chicken man viciously intimidating Kristi Nome?

      It’s awful out there. Truly terrifying.

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      Propublica just had an article where they dived into just fox news’ coverage of portland and apparently they spice up their footage with pictures of the 2020 riots every time they mention portland.

      To the point where it may be possible the city of portland could probably sue fox for defamation.

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      I missed the ANTIFA riots.

      Conspiracy theories paint fraudulent reality of Jan. 6 riot

      Several different conspiracy theories have emerged in the year since the insurrection, according to an analysis of online content by media intelligence firm Zignal Labs on behalf of The Associated Press. Unfounded claims that the rioters were members of antifa went viral first, only to be overtaken by a baseless claim blaming FBI operatives.

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        Pretty sure they were referring to the protests in LA, Portland, etc. which conservative propaganda has successfully painted as “riots.”

        Jan 6 was almost 6 years ago, and these people are talking about the current regime.

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    It’s almost as though state violence against people you have an abstract hatred of doesn’t actually help you in any way.

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    Not really trying to hide the racism anymore, are they?

    I mean I’ve been paying attention to politics for the last 20-25 years now and I’ve known all along the Republican party had a racism problem, but the current boldness of it, almost flaunting of it, is still catching me by surprise.

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      I could have never imagined seeing the world’s wealthiest man fire off two seig heils on stage at a Presidential Inauguration (with literally nothing coming of it), back during GWB’s administration.

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        Nope.

        The goalposts have moved completely off the field at this point. It’s clear that conservatives cannot be trusted and should never, under any circumstances, be allowed to aggregate power.

        I can only hope it’s all so extreme that in the long run it helps bury this traitorous party and confine them to the shitpile of history.

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        Faux news absolutely lost their fucking minds when Obama tossed a salute at a jarhead while gasp holding a coffee. Wave a sign of respect to one of your guards while being black…they scream for weeks.

        Actively salute a North Korean officer while being orange or seig heil while white and rich…totally patriotic and cool what’s he gonna do tomorrow.

        This shit is making me lose sanity

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      You have to apply, like all paid jobs. They only accept minorities, not white ones. They bring face paint and other props so acting like you’ve been tear gassed looks realistic. You have know the director to get a brick to throw during the police encounter. All of this is /s FYI

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    Notice he said that they are “losing” him, not already lost.

    Still fine enough with everything so far. I’m always wondering what it would take to actually turn people like this.

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      One bad thing happening directly to them. They have no empathy. Being “pleased” with how ICE is doing is proof positive of that.

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        The “ICE took my wife” guy still loves trump. For most of these people losing their job or their house is basically the only path to changing their politics

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      I’m always wondering what it would take to actually turn people like this.

      Direct, negative consequences. They’re upset as they watch their lives slowly get worse, and they see inaction on that from the administration.

      But if that administration says “we will be taking $5,000 in taxes from your paycheck” or “we are going to forcibly house a military member in your home because fuck the constitution”, that is when they actually make the mental connection between politician they support and bad consequences that have only now directly harmed them.

      Otherwise, they just see it as “damn, I guess politicians really are just kinda annoying and don’t like doing much to help me. Oh well!” and not “This politician just hurt me”, even if a politician never improving your life as it endlessly gets worse is still a measurable harm.