Despite decades of evidence on the toxic effects of lead battery recycling, companies opted not to act and blocked efforts to clean up the industry.
Despite decades of evidence on the toxic effects of lead battery recycling, companies opted not to act and blocked efforts to clean up the industry.
Imagine the damage recycling EV batteries will cause.
Not to be anti-EV, but more to be pro-transits/bike.
Look man, you need to do better. You want busses to run on diesel, or really any hydrocarbon? No that’s idiocy at this point. So we still need to recycle stuff. We already know how, but the misleading article makes it seem like we don’t, cu they tried to half ass it.
EV batteries are often still good to use as they are for other purposes. Like home power storage. Their storage amount gets low enough that they aren’t giving sufficient range anymore, but they still have plenty of life left in different applications.
There’s a million reasons to prefer bikes and public transit over cars in general. The reasons specific to EVs are usually bullshit.
For what it’s worth, it’s not anti anything to point out flaws. If anything, it’s being pro because it opens the door for a conversation; which, if both sides come at it in good faith, can lead to change.
I think that my ratio makes your point, lol. I neglected to note that we need to do better, instead of just leaving it open ended.
My understanding of the current process is that it’s quite wasteful/under development. With the state of things as they are it seems unlikely that the automakers are going to improve things over the recycling that they encouraged with lead acid. But one can hope, and lobby for change.
Yeah, I’m not sure why you’re being downvoted. Everything you said is true, and respectful.
I think open-ended can be okay, so long as there are milestones we can achieve (i.e. try different things out to see what works and what doesn’t). Something as big as the environment, health/safety, and not completely alienating industries (as much as I hate to say it, we do need them and their resources to an extent), is not something that is going to be easily solved without compromise.
I expect that my last two points will not win me any popularity contests, but they cannot be ignored.
ahahahah, good one
I like it, but it’s contingent on Americans actually wanting to solve the issue instead of one upping each other.
Which is kinda what your post is doing
Yes, but there are a few of us out there who want to see good things happen for all people.
Americans are unlikely to solve anything until their society goes through some dramatic changes.
That’ll take generations, we’re so absolutely fucked in this shit hole
Gotta start somewhere, and gotta keep at it. It’s difficult at times, and there certainly are people who just want to see the world burn. But fuck them. They aren’t worth our time and energy.
It stands to reason that if set on fire, their entire world will be, in fact, burning.
Maybe less. But yeah.
Lithium and lead are drastically different elements.
This is the same shit people use to lambast vaping based of the effects of inhaling burnt plant matter.
No one is doing that. Dihydroacetone released from heated vape juice is just as carcinogenic as tobacco compounds. Huffing any chemical in high concentration is stupid.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11347775/
“Just as carcinogenic” is not demonstrated by that study.
Also “inhaling any chemicals is stupid” shows their level of knowledge considering the air we breath is a chemical.
EV batteries are mostly aluminum, some lithium , carbon as graphite, small amount of cobalt and nickel. None of these are as toxic as lead, but proper lead recycling is not toxic.
But this is how some people are recycling lead batteries.
Currently my understanding of lion recycling is they grind it, dump it into a slurry, and some of the metals are recovered and the rest is a toxic soup. Mostly because the recycling is very much under development.
I think that the lesson we can draw from this is that the current system of auto recycling needs more guidelines as we move forward with EVs.
How pluralizing an uncountable/mass noun implies pros are transiting.
The hyphen removes that option of intended meaning.