• cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    18 hours ago

    If you choose to have a child entirely on purpose in 2025, you’re just a piece of shit, or fanatically devoted to ‘The Revolution’ and think its gonna happen any day now, because you’re delusional¹.

    ¹you had better not use that child as an excuse to stand the fuck down. That child is why you belong at the absolute front of every police encounter, risking your life for their future. If you have a child and are not regularly trying to kill police Nd the wealthy, that child should be taken from you, be ause you do not give a shit about them, they only exist for your own self gratifying natalist bullshit.

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        Narcissistic delusion is not the basis for an entire human life. That person you’re bringing into the world has to exist for decades, and the next few decades¹ are not something I would condemn anyone to. Doing that is sick, its selfish, and its abusive.

        Maybe once we start fixing shit, and there’s a chance of not deliberately putting a child through hell.

        ¹we can’t even imagine a future that isn’t hellish anymore. Even our fictions have forgotten utopia.

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          I guess you had a pretty unpleasant life so far? Not everybody’s has sucked. But I don’t think I need to form a coherent argument against 'all reproduction is inherently morally bankrupt ’ - it’s such deliberate bait that it rejects good faith discussion off-hand.

          Is there a more coherent argument to be made against hyper-natalists? Yes, I think that could plausibly be upheld. But that would be a more nuanced stance. The world, despite its trajectory, is not a hellscape.

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            I’m not delusional about climate change and fascism. Your children will not have your life, asshole. You cannot promise them that. You cannot comprehend how grim this shit is going to get. I’m not really joking about my plan to die in the water wars.

            Nobody who breeds right now, in 2025, should be allowed to keep them unless they’re going hard on revolution. Like, anything short of the parents from ‘one battle after another’ you shouldn’t be allowed to keep the kid, you are not responsible enough to care for a child.

            This was not the case, arguably, 20 40 60 years ago. This is not anti natalist, this is considering the life that will be available to ypur hypothetical child, the life you are forcing someone to have to live.

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                Any excuse to do what you want with no consideration for the lives of others, right?

                I could explain how now is different, but you don’t care.

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                  Look up all the horrible things that were happening 60 years ago. It was far worse than now. And people had babies. Including your parents.

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              Batshit doomerism, you sound like one of those religious nuts expecting the rapture any minute. You don’t have some privileged insight into ‘how bad things are gonna get’ or whatever hypothetical revolution you’ve conjectured, yet you presume to lecture others about it. Please, tell me again about narcissism and what it consists of.

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                You’re right everything’s fine, would you be willing to buy some land in the Marshall islands off me?

                No? I dont have any special fucking knowledge you don’t have access to, ‘Cadillac desert’ and ‘desert’ are not the fucking necronomicon; you can get them like anywhere. Zlibrary, Anna’s archive, your local library, wherever the fuck else. You just want to keep pretending, so why the fuck would you?

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        10 hours ago

        I’m against inflicting the hell world weve made on a living thing.

        By all means, fuck like mormob rabbits once we fix shit, but if you’re breeding on purpose before that, you are not fit to raise a child.