Swiss voters have decisively rejected a call to require women to do national service in the military, civil protection teams or other forms as men must do already.

Swiss voters on Sunday decisively rejected a call to require women to do national service in the military, civil protection teams or other forms, as all men must do already.

Official results. with counting still ongoing in some areas after a referendum, showed that more than half of Switzerland’s cantons, or states, had rejected the “citizen service initiative” by wide margins. That meant it was defeated, because proposals need a majority of both voters and cantons to pass.

Voters also heavily rejected a separate proposal to impose a new national tax on individual donations or inheritances of more than 50 million francs ($62 million), with the revenues to be used to fight the impact of climate change and help Switzerland meet its ambitions to have net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.

  • hubobes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    210·
    6 hours ago

    Measure whatever you want but maybe first make it slightly more equal for the ones who have been disadvantaged for decades? But no, one party always focuses on the few things man have where they are slightly worse of.

    • ipkpjersi@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      2 hours ago

      You’re right, men should just go die in a war they have no reason to fight and be happy about it.

      • hubobes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        11·
        2 hours ago

        No they should not? Nobody said that.

        Also nobody who is in the army here actually believes they will ever see a war. Most people who serve just hate it and see it as a waste of time that will never amount to anything.

    • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      4 hours ago

      I’m a feminist and I honestly don’t understand this mentality. Mixing genders in all activities is good for our society, period.

      • hubobes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        24·
        4 hours ago

        Not if said activity is forced upon you. Women can already voluntarily join the military or civil service.

        • SlothMama@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          3 hours ago

          So can men, but in this instance they’re also compelled. The ask here is that if men are compelled to service, women should be too. That’s obviously equal treatment and fair.

          • hubobes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            12·
            2 hours ago

            Am I in the wrong movie? Women are at a huge disadvantage in life (Gender pay gap, workplace representation, unpaid care and domestic work, education and job positions, healthcare, part-time employment, promotion and career advancement, violence against women, political representation) and we should work to solve that but for some reason we first want to force them to also serve in the military while leaving the current system in place that puts them at a disadvantage? Oh the heavens, men have to serve for a single year…yes that is super important, not all the things they get a huge advantage in life?

            • SlothMama@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              1 hour ago

              This is super twisted and infantalizing to women to be honest. We don’t fight for equality by using equity logic that is faulty, we ask everyone, men and women to see women as equals in all areas of life. We’re strong, resilient, capable and independent, and you’re philosophy asks to maintain privilege ( not military draft ) because you think we face so much other issues, that you see that as equitable, but equity is often the incorrect solution to fairness, fairness is often blind, it says anything a man can do, women can do too. I want to be seen as an equal, not weaker. Women should be in positions of power, not protected and privileged, we are just as capable.