Not sure what to include or not, but I figure if you’re not on twitter you might have missed it.

Lots of very disturbing new stories and details coming out. Basically the entire western elite is in on it. Details about using war-torn countries to traffic children too. They wrote guides about these countries, openly talked in emails about “bringing back some children” from their visits there.

More names, including of course a lot of Trump. Some perpetrators are still redacted but people are finding them out. Elon Musk, his brother Kimball, and Bill Gates are in it too.

Moot (of 4chan) had contact with Epstein and met him several times. Possibility that 4chan was created by “Israel” to stoke the modern far-right movement. Of course there’s a lot of speculation and that’s the problem with twitter, the cracked theories are lumped in with the actual facts and it gets hard to tell what’s plausible or not. Lots of people want to get the views first so they find whatever they can and then form a theory even if they get facts wrong, just to be the first ones to get it.

An email from a redacted name saying they “are in China” dated last week of May 2009, and then “will be in the US for 2 weeks”. People are trying to find who it could be, so far possibilities include Gates or Nethanyahu. They should cross-reference with the US mention though.

Oh yeah and that motherfucker Chomsky, pissed be his name, is also in the latest round.

You know who’s not ANYWHERE in those files though? President of the goddamn People’s Republic of China, Mr. Xi Jinping.

On the one hand it’s nothing we didn’t already imagined, but seeing it laid out like this from victim statements and emails is something else.

Are communist parties doing anything with this? They should.

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      I would say it’s less shadowy cabal and more of a hiding in plain sight gangster empire thing because there’s nothing in place to hold them accountable and won’t be in many parts of the world so long as empire is in charge, and to a lesser degree, so long as capitalism is in charge. For contrast, consider the kind of headline that comes out of China along the lines of “person in government position greatly abused it to enrich themself and gets life sentence, or death penalty if they re-offend within X amount of time.” That kind of thing simply doesn’t happen with major financial crimes in capitalist states. The most that ever happens is a rogue person who breaks financial laws might get held accountable with a prison sentence once in a blue moon.

      If we extend that to other types of crimes, it’s no wonder this kind of thing goes largely undetected by the general public for so long. With the type of financial abuse that capitalist empire is known for, people are at least more likely to be aware because it tends to have a more visible and broad impact. But for many others kinds of crimes, with the sheer logistical power that capitalists have on hand, who is going to spot what they’re doing and stop them? The CIA and other western imperial “intel” orgs who are busy organizing mass murder operations? The FBI who is busy going after racial minorities? The cops who behave like gangs themselves? The individualist liberals who are trimming their suburban garden hedges behind their white picket fences?

      Until the working class, the imperialized, the colonized take back power, these lifelong terrorists who frame themselves as visionaries will keep abusing.

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        Nothing you said is wrong, but the simple version: it’s fascism, essentially. The socialist world and its (more-or-less) allies are fighting against capitalism gone completely psychotic, just as in 1941. We shouldn’t be surprised to find that the capitalists commit crimes on the level of the worst atrocities of Imperial Japan.

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          We shouldn’t be surprised to find that the capitalists commit crimes on the level of the worst atrocities of Imperial Japan.

          Or hell, for that matter, that they commit crimes on the level of their own colonial ancestors (whom their state power is not so distant from). It reminds me of that quote about Hitler and how it wasn’t something new, so much as it was the same tactics of colonialism and empire turned inward.

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      At this level they are not competitors anymore, they are good friends with each other - including in politics. It’s how capitalism progresses as it asserts itself as the hegemonic mode of production. All the talks of “if this law gets passed it’ll be bad for business and I might just move my company” is exactly just talk; by the time the law is even publicized to the public these guys have already been told all about it and ran the numbers and simulations and know exactly how they’re coming out of it. Shadowy elites, though, that depends. I mean, they’re pretty blatant about it. We know who they are – Bill Gates Elon Musk etc. The shadowy part might be that they keep up the appearances in front of the cameras (so to speak) but behind it they all know each other intimately.

      There’s an old joke that after convicting the accused, the judge, the prosecutor and the attorney all go grab drinks together.