Anyone who knows about kids’ movies knows how popular princess movies are, especially Disney princesses. My child is six and absolutely loves them too. My child also loves princes and kings, but I’m having a hard time finding anything that features a character as easily beloved as Elsa or Moana for example. Even worse, a lot of the times male characters are just antagonists or at least stand in the way of the princess. I’d love to see a movie with a young prince who isn’t evil or dumb (as a joke) that kids can relate to. I think it also be cool if there was singing or magic or anything mystical. My kid kind of likes Shrek but I was hoping to find one about a human prince. The protagonist in the movie The Lorax is a young boy on a good mission, and we like that movie too, but we’re just looking for something bigger. I’m not looking for a movie that’s primarily fighting, a little is okay, but I’d really prefer if the main focus was some honorable endeavor. Am I just missing the prince movies, or are they all about princesses instead?

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    How to train your dragon. The main protagonist is the son of the chief and is also generally a good person and is very likable. The supporting cast are also great. Also the subsequent movies and TV shows actually have the characters grow and age through them

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    • Hercules
    • Aladdin
    • Jungle book
    • How to train your dragon
    • Sword in the stone
    • Robin hood
    • Emperor’s new groove
    • Lion king
    • Treasure planet (not a prince but hes pretty cool!)
    • Peter Pan (Also Hook - not animated but awesome)
    • Tarzan
    • Shrek

    Princess films do dominate but the male characters can be highlighted too,

    • Prince phillip in sleeping beauty is pretty cool and defeats a dragon
    • Kristoph from Frozen is funny and smart, resourceful etc.
    • Flynn from Tangled is decent, eventually
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        I almost suggested this one too - I’d put it on when my kids were babies, since they seemed to like it well enough, and I loved the movie and soundtrack

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      Flynn has no redeeming qualities. He just confessed to a teenager.

      I do like that movie though. The mother in Tangled is actually a good way to teach kids some important lessons about abusive relationships without being super dark. She demonstrates over-defensiveness, love-bombing, gaslighting, etc.

      It was a way to teach my kids about how you can lie even though every word you say is true. If you listen to the mother, pretty much everything she says is technically true, but in almost every line she has, she is being deceptive.

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        Flynn has no redeeming qualities. He just confessed to a teenager

        Haha, yeah fair enough. Maybe I was just won over by his hair… which is really saying something, given the movie.

        Agreed, the mother is an excellent villain all round.

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        Definitely don’t leave it out, use it as a teaching moment instead. Blinding kids to racism doesn’t help them become good people. Talking through those moment with them is what does.

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        Because of the red indian scenes right? Are there more occurences or just that part (“why does the red man say how”)?

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      Zuko’s a prince! He’s not an awesome role model, but he’s an outstanding character and there are some great lessons to be learned from watching him over the course of the whole series.

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        Well, I mean, the obsessively and angrily chasing Aang party definitely shouldn’t be emulated, but he’s got a very good character growth arc.

        • He learns his worth as a person (and as a prince) doesn’t come from his abusive father, but intrinsically from his own self.
        • He gains the insight and humility to admit he was wrong and seek forgiveness from the people he wronged
        • He learns to empathize with other people, and that he is his strongest when he releases (and is no longer clouded by) his anger and fights for good.
        • He learns to appreciate the people who love him (Iroh) instead of chasing after someone who doesn’t (his father).

        The world would be a better place of everyone could learn the lessons that Zuko learned.

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      Seconded! There are so many valuable lessons in this show. There are also many role models to connect with, for both boys and girls alike.

      For those who have watched and rewatched the only 3 seasons, please check out the comics, which are a continuation of the story and ties up many loose ends from the show.

      (There is technically prince Zuko, and his story has one of the best redemption arcs in children shows)

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      I came here to post this. It’s a brilliantly funny and fantastical film. Definitely focuses on the prince’s journey more than the princess’.

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    This is far from a stupid question. I have a girl and a boy and it’s surprisingly difficult to find movies/books/ shows with positive male role models. A lot of times they are presented as evil or incompetent as well. I try to find more balanced things for them to watch together.

    As far as Disney fare there are Lucca and Tangled. Lucca is meh but Tangled is really funny and the kids like it, and it arguably has two protagonists with one of them being male. Peter pan is fun but definitely not cool in different ways, especially to native Americans.

    There’s a lot more than Disney though. The Adventures of Baron Munchausen might be a bit scary depending on their age but they both love it. As others mentioned The Dragon Prince is pretty great. If you haven’t yet, you should try The Sound of Music, you’d be surprised how much they get into it.

    I’ll try to think of more examples but thanks for posting this, I think it’s an important conversation to have

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    Not a movie, rather a show, and also not complete yet, but The Dragon Prince on Netflix is pretty good. The titular prince is a dragon, but there are human princes as well, with one becoming a king actually pretty early on. And King Ezran absolutely tries to bring people together peacefully and with honorable intentions, though there is some action/fighting as well. Caveat, while it is a kids show, it might be thematically better for kids a bit older than 6, as some of the themes can be a bit dark for a kids show, but I’d just recommend you watch a couple eps yourself before showing it to the kiddo and decide for yourself if it’s appropriate.

    Also, someone else mentioned Avatar: The Last Airbender in this thread, which is also excellent, and if you happen to be familiar with that show, it has a lot of similiarities and it’s some of the same writers and directors of that show.

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    How about Aladdin or The Emperor’s New Groove? In the former a beggar becomes a price, and in the latter a king learns to value humility and friendship.

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    What about The Lion King? (I’d have to recommend the 1994 animated movie, but I haven’t seen the newer one)

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    The Road to El Dorado doesn’t have princes exactly and they’re not exactly on an honorable quest at first, but I think it still fits the bill in a weird way.

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        I want to rationalize this. Mulan is a Disney princess because Disney princesses is a franchise, not that all Disney princesses are princesses. Atlantis was an animated Disney movie. I’ll allow it.

        Big Hero 6?

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      Not for long though. He got promoted after an unfortunate waterbuffalo incident.

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          No, inheritance law is clear, they’re on a clear male-only primogeniture system with no election from the peers, Simba was king as soon as his father died, The King is Dead, Long Live the King and such.

          Scar was just a pretender to the throne.

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            But Simba voluntarily went into exile, de facto abdicating the throne to the next heir, which was Scar.

            No pretending, Scar had a legitimate claim!

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              A fair point, if Simba had reached maturity, but as a child King, we must assume that Simba was in regency and decisions vis a vis abdication would have to be approved by the regent in good faith.

              I do not know whether Mufasa had declared a regent to supercede the typical rules that would place Scar in the position, but I think even if you take his manipulations as regent approval we can assume that Scar’s behavior at the least was not in good faith and, IIRC, his assumption of the throne was based on the lie that Simba was dead, not that he abdicated.

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      I feel like watching him come of age while rebelling against his lot/role, going on that adventure to find himself is really important, whether he’s technically a prince at the time or not.

      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Coming to America, the adult jokes flew right over my head when I was a kid but I really enjoyed the story.

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      Within the first 5 minutes of the film: visibly naked concubines serving the prince. concubine emerges from under the water “The royal penis is now clean”, implying she washed his royal jewels or sucked him off underwater.

      Yeah, disagreeing on this one. Not suitable for kids AT ALL… I was 9 when I first saw it. None of the adult jokes or scenes flew over my head.