Alternatives Nekogram X an alternative telegram foss client

  • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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    4 years ago

    There seem to be some elements that just seem uncontrollable as far as adoption goes. WhatsApp is a non standardised XMPP, and initially before the Facebook buyout, it was independent and had a colossal userbase.

    Matrix and XMPP fans are often at crossroads with each other. Then there is Telegram and Discord, both similar and very different than other types of platforms. Then you have stuff like Twitter and Instagram.

    While ethic and merit should come first, there are some exceptions in terms of adoption that truly make you think what goes into success. Polished clients? E2EE? Country of origin? Server reliability? Features? Marketing? The answer is definitely NOT all of the above.

    XMPP is extremely light, solid, stable, federated, easily can be tunneled, but lacks polished clients and marketing. Conversations, Psi, Gajim and Dino are the only decent clients, and out of them Conversations (and its forks) are the only ones that will convince an ordinary user to use it reliably. Then you have to pick a server for account creation, for which there is no central list and none of which is standardised as regards with MAM.

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      4 years ago

      Well, I don’t take WhatsApp into account because people don’t realize that is XMPP which is the main point I use to support my theory, what people know when they join every platform.

      The additional features are something I put a secondary unless are strictly needed directly. Then I change main requirement as preference to set myself in platforms on that, and support the ones which doesn’t fit the needs to get that, for example. This last thing would be what I call “put focus on fit the preference or the requirement”.

      We can use XMPP already though and, from it, support implementation of the faulty things. Maybe you could be in another platform meanwhile if some of the needed things are not in the XMPP platform yet.

      • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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        4 years ago

        And that in itself is a problem. People do want features, even if it is non essential to you or me. Our perceptions are irrelevant.

        I use XMPP daily heavily, and find it great, but I happen to also be technologically advanced, so can navigate my way through any issues.

        What you are thinking of as a minimalist approach sounds good on paper, but does not look appealing to the generic end users. Unfortunate.

        • Echedenyan@lemmy.ml
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          4 years ago

          If people are the problem, our focus should take that into account.

          Maybe education could be our duty. I already do that at low scale to fix the wrong concepts some people have about things due to the faulty knowledge.