• bleistift2@feddit.de
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    Even non-Christian-nutjobs get this wrong, so let me spell it out: Humans didn’t evolve from apes. Humans evolved with apes from a common ancestor.

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      Humans are apes. We evolved from them and we are still them.

      Edit: I think you mean to say chimps, not apes. We came from a common ancestor with chimpanzees. We were never chimps.

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        The Hominidae, whose members are known as the great apes are a taxonomic family of primates that includes […] orangutan[s]; Gorilla[s …]; […] the chimpanzee and the bonobo; and Homo, of which only modern humans (Homo sapiens) remain.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae

        Apes [are] collectively [called] Hominoidea […] There are two extant branches of the superfamily Hominoidea: the gibbons […]; and the [great apes …]

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

        You’re right in that humans are apes taxonomically. What I was trying to contradict was the misconception according to which the type of apes we see today got somehow “frozen” evolutionary some time ago, but that some of their descendents evolved to become human.

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          These pedantic Lemmy nerd fights remind me of how I learned so much on early reddit reading similar arguments.

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      Not to mention that the rib thing was a deliberate rewording in later translations, if memory serves it was originally “made from half of Adam” or whatever his original name was.

      The “from his rib” thing was put there as a way of basically saying “from creation women were lesser.” So basically politics of the time affecting the message.

      I’ll have to see if I can find a source later.

      Edit: Source