Israel’s military has informed the United Nations that the entire population of northern Gaza should relocate to the southern half of the territory within 24 hours, the U.N. spokesman, Stéphane Dujarric, said late on Thursday night, adding that such a movement — involving over one million people — would lead to “devastating humanitarian consequences.”
“The same order applied to all U.N. staff and those sheltered in U.N. facilities — including schools, health centers and clinics,” Mr. Dujarric said.
The U.N. was told that the marker dividing the north from south was Wadi Gaza, the statement said.
The U.N. Security Council is scheduled to hold an emergency meeting on Friday afternoon in a closed consultation format
Important note to those unfamiliar with the geography when reading this: the part of the Gaza Strip they want evacuated includes the entirety of Gaza City, the most populated city of the Gaza Strip. They are ordering the migration of 1.1 million people into smaller towns and cities to the south, to empty Gaza City. In 24 hours. This would be disastrous even if it was possible. But there are countless factors making it not possible for people to just pick up and leave, much less in 24 hours, including that the primary hospital of the entire Gaza Strip is in the evacuation area, and is full of injured victims of the bombings the IDF has already undertaken. They have also bombed the caravan on primary roadway people are taking out of the city, according to several news sources
They have also bombed the caravan on primary roadway people are taking out of the city, according to several news sources
Fwiw the video that Hamas themselves released shows an explosion that is very much not a missile or artillery. It has a large orange flameball, doesn’t leave a crater, leaves windows on the vans intact.
This was most likely a propane IED of which Hamas are known to use. Or a tragic accident (trucks propane tank exploding).
What would be the point of this from a non fucked up standpoint? It’s not like that would help them get the fuckers who did this. All I can see is that they want to destroy everything if Palestinians somehow could completely comply. The fact that they can’t just means Israel wants to kill a bunch of people who are unable to get out.
There was a video called something like “IDF destroys Hamas commando’s house”
This building was 12 floors. Nobody can convince me some random-ass Hamas grunt owned all that.
Seems it’s OK to kill dozens of families as long as you do it from two miles up. This is just revenge.
By the end of next week I doubt Gaza city will even exist.
Didn’t they use that same excuse to take out the Gaza Hospital? People are going to be looking at Israel with a new set of eyes when this is over.
Destroy the houses and then take the land. They are speeding up what they have already done since the beginning.
I think that’s the point
What would be the point of this from a non fucked up standpoint?
I think the bad and good reasons can be true at the same time. Plenty of others list the bad reasons. For the good reasons:
- it is unlikely Hamas could evacuate its weaponry, rocket stockpiles and other supplies in 24 hours undetected
- so some will be flushed out at which point they can be engaged
- others will remain, so having the civilian population leave - even if not completely - it’s the best way to reduce collateral deaths and give Hamas as little time to prepare as possible
- hostages area likely being held in the north, hence the time pressure to separate as many civilians as possible and isolate Hamas
- the crisis would be less of a crisis of the Arab nations actually stepped up to help but none of them want anything to do with Gaza Palestinians…
- finally (up to you if this is a good or bad reason) Israel may well intend to bulldoze every building in North Gaza to deny its use to Hamas and it’s obviously safer for the population to not be there when it happens. This may increase the chances of the UN / Egypt creating a viable refugee camp inside the Egyptian border which may well be Israel’s end game
Last time Israel invaded they spent significant time destroying tunnels. It’s dangerous work that leaves them exposed, so the less people around the better.
Last 3 times they told people to move they bombed the destination. I’d stay put
Hey what can I search to find this?
Friendly reminder that Israel doesn’t really mind bombing “safe routes”
Someone needs to stop these vile fucks. Israel is going to kill millions if left unopposed.
Good
Don’t forget there’s a lot of civilians in that 1million+ people.
And given that the average age in Gaza is 18 with 65% being under 24, that’s a lot of children as well.
Genocide is bad.
I think your rationality is lost on a fascist
muh everyone who disagrees with me is a fascist
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Genocide is bad.
Sure I feel sorry for the civilians but I am not going to support terrorists and none of this would’ve happened if it weren’t for Hamas
Still not the fault of the civilians nor is it justified in any way.
It sure is justified “in any way”. Not being justified at all would’ve looked like this:
- Palestinians do nothing
- Israel attacks
We all know this is not how it went down.
As far as I’m concerned the vast majority of the population (considering that over half is quite literally 18 years old and younger) did not do anything. Palestine =/ Hamas.
Is giving civilians a warning to move south somehow not justified? Would you rather have them massacred with no warning?
Well yea I’m glad there was at least some sort of warning, but how do you move over 1million people in 24 hours and where? But how does telling civilians to basically leave their homes to be destroyed justified? First they cut off necessities of life now they’re telling them to get lost.
Right. Killing thousands of civilians just to resolve a conflict that was escalated for some reason from both sides.
There’s only one noble side to be on in this, and that’s the side of civilians and humanitarians.
If you’re ever on the side of someone who is killing civilians, your brain made a left turn somewhere and your side is probably just as valid as the extremists on the other side.
Think about it. The only thing separating you from being the same monster you accuse those other ppl to be is being born on a different clump of earth.
If anyone else getting worried about WW3?
America is going to be split in 2 conflicts. Now is the perfect time for China, North Korea, and any other enemies to make advances on territory they want.
Soo, trail of tears in Gaza?
where the fuck should they go
The cynic in me says that Israel will now say that anyone left is a legit target/Hamas supporter, even though it’s completely infeasible for most of the population to get out in time.
Then after a huge number of deaths, once they control northern Gasa, they will say (because of continuing Hamas attacks) that it’s not safe to return. (But mysteriously is for Israeli settlers)
This only makes the Palestinians less likely to leave …
It’s going to be a bloodbath. Hopefully afterwards it will have been enough for some kind of pro-peace faction to become popular on both sides… Not holding my breath though.
If this does go bad (worse) I hope that the international community condems both sides, they need to be encouraged (if not forced) to find a peacefull solution.
And western countries should stop supporting Israel blindly.
That’s exactly what this is. It’s the equivalent of a kid wildly swinging his fists and blaming you if you happen to be in the way.
If this does go bad (worse) I hope that the international community condems both sides, they need to be encouraged (if not forced) to find a peacefull solution.
They never criticize Israel even for its most extreme actions. Right now they seem to be eagerly queueing up to support Israel’s siege and attacks on Gaza and send more weapons, no matter how many civilians it kills. So it’s hard to be hopeful that international politicians will hold Israel to a measured response.
I guess I need to add: this is not an expression of support for Hamas and their brutal killings. It shouldn’t need to be said, but this is the internet.
Absolute madness.
So uh… When is the U.S. and Europe going to withdraw support for Israel? I mean, genocide doesn’t seem very in vogue nowadays, you know…
I mean, genocide doesn’t seem very in vogue nowadays
It kind of is though?
In the last 3 years I’ve counted about 6 different conflicts that look like genocides or incipient genocide attempts to me (based on Raphael Lemkin’s original definition of the term).
There also is the sentiment of killing refugees at the borders or let them drown. That seems to be getting more and more popular in Europe
And the US!
Yikes.
- Create excuse, 2. Retaliate (defend), 3. Expand. Conquest 101
Looks like they don’t want to give Hamas time to move their weapons. Whoever came up with this method should be celebrated.
It will force Hamas to give up on hunkering down with their human shields. This counters that, and gives the human shields a chance to escape from the death cult.
A very slim chance. 24 hours is very short notice, and the circumstances make it very difficult to relocate so many people.
It defeats the purpose if you give Hamas time to organize. Getting rid of Hamas ASAP is the surest way to minimize civilian casualties.
“gives the human shields a chance to escape from the death cult” is a WILD way to describe how millions of civilians suddenly have less than 24 hours to move south (where? Who cares?) lest they get absolutely bombed to fuck.
The alternative clearly wasn’t working. Any time they telegraphed a bombing, Hamas would force them to stay in the building to die so useful idiots would keep criticizing Israel for the death toll.
Now there’s no excuse.
Israel has to defeat Hamas decisively - there is no alternative.
And quit shitting only on Israel for the current situation of Gaza and Westbank. Arafat walked away from a Palestinian state in 2000 and chose terror instead. The continued terror attacks CREATED the awful living conditions in Gaza.
