• Silverseren@kbin.social
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    2 years ago

    This is basically like the many tests done on gluten sensitivity, where the people who claimed to have it and thought they were given bread claimed the usual symptoms, when they weren’t given anything of the sort. (And vice versa when they were given something they thought had no gluten, but did, and had no ill effects afterwards).

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      2 years ago

      What’s really crazy is that sometimes the placebo can still bring people relief even after knowing that it’s a placebo

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        Yeah. Though you ethically can’t try to use placebo as a medical treatment, because it’s inconsistent in whether it does anything and is essentially trying to not treat the patient at all with known methods of treatment.

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          It is not completely excluded. For cases where the ‘standard’ treatment did not work or does not exist, placebo treatment can be used under the condition, that the patient is informed that they will be given placebo.

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        2 years ago

        And the larger the pill, the better the placebo effect. That’s why we now have testicle sized pills.

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        I wish that worked for me. I’d love to have someone give me a BS miracle drug sugar pill and actually be able to believe them. Even subconsciously. But subconsciously, I automatically disbelieve miracle claims (and even most efficacy claims) until looking at the clinical trial data.

        Years of chronic pain and gobs of different meds to control it, most entirely ineffective but with side effects, does things to a person already inclined toward doubt. I’m also prone to nocibo responses, like the guy in the comic, but I think it’s sensations that are always there, I’m just being asked not to ignore the state of my body like I usually do, so I actually notice them.

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        2 years ago

        If you know that placebo works, and know that it is placebo, then of course!

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          Just remember that the placebo effect is only effective in a small percentage of the population, and is consistent with any other substances that may induce this phenomenon. That’s how they know when something actually works…it works in the majority of people, not just that small percentage.

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      Sure, but that’s just the placebo effect? I thought the double-blind process referred to something else in particular (hence the “double” part of the blind):

      A double-blind study blinds both the subjects as well as the researchers to the treatment allocation [1]

      In any case, I was mostly just curious, don’t intend to nit-pick the title :)

      [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK546641/