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        3 years ago

        Yep, Tutanota ftw

        big corps only exist to make money out of yo, mindwashed peoples mind, get out of proton mail google facebook amazon etc etc you can thank me later

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      3 years ago

      I tried to sign up via tor some time ago and had to solve an impossible javascript-only google captcha, receive an sms or donate to verify that I am human.

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          3 years ago

          They are in F-Droid. Both apps. I downloaded the VPN and Mail version from F-Droid.

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          So the value they provide lies in the software they provide? I would have compared it more to an e-mail hosting service, but it looks like they have some features beyond “we put pgp in the browser because people don’t seem to figure out how to use it themselves”.

          our infrastructure runs on the highly reliable AWS cloud

          Ok this is definitely worse than telling your customers “our cloud is not a cloud because we own the servers”.

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              In the EU (with better-than-nothing privacy legislation) we have a lot of companies that own data centers that offer hosted mail services, thats also what I compared them to when I said they are expensive. But they of course don’t have all the nice software and you have to do the (end-to-end) encryption on your own. They (have to) do transport encryption where possible but they don’t usually enforce encryption when you connect via IMAP/POP3/SMTP. So there is a lot more users can do wrong. But I think that when using a webinterface doing the encryption outside of the browser is a good idea.