Palestinians should agree to get their own country and rule it themselves. Why would they be starved and killed ? Not sure I follow. No one should be starved or killed.
And regarding Hamas - Israel cannot coexist next to it. Since Palestinians will not remove Hamas, who else will do it ? Egypt ? The rest of the Arab world ? Israel is left to do it unfortunately. I would like to see any other country in the middle east handle a situation like that… Think they would eliminate Hamas with 0 civilian casualties?
LOL hold of you to say about a group of people where half are refugees or diaspora and rest are in an open air prison or in the West Bank being arrested and killed every night. How do you expect them to hold elections or have a say in anything? This is the absolute worst excuse I’ve heard for genocide in my life. Shame.
I think you’re giving too much discount for the Palestinians for their current state or affairs and make it sound like everything that happened to them was done to them by Israel only.
Both you and I know that is not true. A lot of things could and should have been handled differently, the same of course can be said for Israel. So try to get out of the position for a moment and see that there are a lot of things Palestinians can do to try and change their situation, regardless of any shitty behavior by Israel.
Hmmm, when you ethnically cleanse a group of people and show full intent and action to genocide them, I don’t see a wya out of it for Israel. Israel will go down in the books of history as a genocidal Nazi state and so the genocide deniers will not be looked kindly upon.
I think you underestimate the suffering of Palestinians and to what degree Israel has controlled their lives. Yes, things are complicated, but not this part.
So many Palestinians did everything they could to ensure peace, but Israel stops them every time. It attacks activists, kills journalists, etc. If you pretend otherwise, we both know you’d be lying.
He hired engineers from Gaza and the west bank to try and foster peace through work and his daughter was murdered on Oct 7th. He still hasn’t given up on hope.
When you asked me what I would do if 1200 of my people were killed, and I mentioned that 17 thousand of my people were killed, you immediately switched to Hamas. It’s as if you are incapable of empathy. If I was Israeli I could shove my tragedy in the face of everyone and force them to see me as a victim, but not Palestinians. My grandmother left during the Nakba, her whole hometown is now a dirty stinky Israeli settlement. And yet I cannot go to every UN resolution and demand that Israel be condemned. In fact, if I do that, I’ll probably be called antisemetic.
I do not brush aside the suffering of Palestinians. Both populations are screwed over by bad leadership.
However, Hamas started this one by murdering and kidnapping women and children and doing horrendous things. Israel has the right to retaliate. They should do so with the least amount of casualties.
Unfortunately, in the long run, this gets no one closer to nowhere.
Anyway also please answer my question, what would you have done differently to committing a genocide and ethnic cleansing? 😊😊😊😊
Given the chance, I would immediately start negotiations for two states solution but that will never happen in the current climate.
But you would still continue killing and starving the population?
Palestinians should agree to get their own country and rule it themselves. Why would they be starved and killed ? Not sure I follow. No one should be starved or killed.
And regarding Hamas - Israel cannot coexist next to it. Since Palestinians will not remove Hamas, who else will do it ? Egypt ? The rest of the Arab world ? Israel is left to do it unfortunately. I would like to see any other country in the middle east handle a situation like that… Think they would eliminate Hamas with 0 civilian casualties?
LOL hold of you to say about a group of people where half are refugees or diaspora and rest are in an open air prison or in the West Bank being arrested and killed every night. How do you expect them to hold elections or have a say in anything? This is the absolute worst excuse I’ve heard for genocide in my life. Shame.
I think you’re giving too much discount for the Palestinians for their current state or affairs and make it sound like everything that happened to them was done to them by Israel only. Both you and I know that is not true. A lot of things could and should have been handled differently, the same of course can be said for Israel. So try to get out of the position for a moment and see that there are a lot of things Palestinians can do to try and change their situation, regardless of any shitty behavior by Israel.
Hmmm, when you ethnically cleanse a group of people and show full intent and action to genocide them, I don’t see a wya out of it for Israel. Israel will go down in the books of history as a genocidal Nazi state and so the genocide deniers will not be looked kindly upon.
I think you underestimate the suffering of Palestinians and to what degree Israel has controlled their lives. Yes, things are complicated, but not this part.
So many Palestinians did everything they could to ensure peace, but Israel stops them every time. It attacks activists, kills journalists, etc. If you pretend otherwise, we both know you’d be lying.
I can see you are washed with hatred, I don’t blame you.
I can tell you many stories about Israeli peace activists that were affected by all this as well, like this guy for example: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/israeli-exec-who-hired-palestinians-in-tech-boom-still-hopes-for-peace-while-mourning-slain-daughter-c8af06c8
He hired engineers from Gaza and the west bank to try and foster peace through work and his daughter was murdered on Oct 7th. He still hasn’t given up on hope.
If you only choose to hate, you continue to cycle
When you asked me what I would do if 1200 of my people were killed, and I mentioned that 17 thousand of my people were killed, you immediately switched to Hamas. It’s as if you are incapable of empathy. If I was Israeli I could shove my tragedy in the face of everyone and force them to see me as a victim, but not Palestinians. My grandmother left during the Nakba, her whole hometown is now a dirty stinky Israeli settlement. And yet I cannot go to every UN resolution and demand that Israel be condemned. In fact, if I do that, I’ll probably be called antisemetic.
I do not brush aside the suffering of Palestinians. Both populations are screwed over by bad leadership.
However, Hamas started this one by murdering and kidnapping women and children and doing horrendous things. Israel has the right to retaliate. They should do so with the least amount of casualties.
Unfortunately, in the long run, this gets no one closer to nowhere.
Yeah, they have the right to retaliate… But this isn’t retaliation, and civilians are not respected.