• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 months ago

    animals are thinking and feeling beings who deserve rights.

    what rights do you think animals deserve?

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      11 months ago

      Forget rights.

      What ethical foundation permits someone to kill animals when they don’t need to?

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        11 months ago

        animals are killed all the time out of convenience or by accident or for profit. it’s so common that i think a justification must be made that it is immoral.

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            11 months ago

            i think it’s amoral, actually. and a phenomenon being so ubiquitous is a good indicator of amorality, even if it is not a guarantee.

            edit: do you have an argument that killing non-human animals is not moral?

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              They are sentient beings, killing them without need is immoral since it’s causing pain for the sake of it.

              I don’t think it’s wrong to kill an animal for sustenance but it should be done in the most humane way possible and factory farming is the complete opposite of that.

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                11 months ago

                They are sentient beings, killing them without need is amoral since it’s causing pain for the sake of it.

                did you mean immoral here?

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        11 months ago

        do you think they would be willing to recognize that right for others? they certainly don’t act that way, now.

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          Just because they’re incapable of being moral agents, i.e. capable of understanding why murder is wrong, doesn’t make it OK to murder them. A toddler would happily push you off a cliff, but that doesn’t give you the right to push toddlers off cliffs.