President Joe Biden has invited his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelensky to the White House on Tuesday, a spokeswoman said, after the administration warned it will run out of money for Ukraine aid…
I hope they do, but this is why I’ve always thought Ukraine needed to be a little less hard-line on not giving up any territory. Because I figured it was only a matter of time before the Republicans (and other similar parties/groups in other countries) ratfucked the support away from them.
I don’t know if Russia was ever open to negotiating, but if they were, Ukraine may find themselves wishing they had negotiated at a high point, instead of their support being pulled out from under them.
Sadly, the US is simply not a reliable ally or source of support right now, and probably won’t be until getting the internal insanity under control. Until there are two parties actually willing to govern instead of one party trying to govern and the other acting like a deranged shit-flinging baboon, the US will be unreliable.
If Ukraine gives up territory they have established that a large invasion will yield positive results, giving Russia an incentive to try again for more. Given that, in Ukraine’s position, what would you do? Choose to continue fighting, or choose to stop fighting now and then have to start fighting again in five years having given up loads of your ports and industrial base? You would need a guarantee that it would not happen.
What guarantee would you seek? The only one that makes sense to me is NATO membership, and that is exactly the situation Russia least wants to happen - they will not accept any deal in which Ukraine becomes a NATO member.
The reason for that is because more generally Russia wants to be able to threaten and conquer its neighbours at will. In other words, any attempt you make to guarantee Ukraine’s safety after a deal is struck is actually undermining Russia’s long-term goals and so will be refused. Russia only ever talked about negotiating to muddy the waters.
The only way to end the war favourably for the West and for democracies is for Russia to be defeated.
If it was me in their place, I’d try giving up as little as possible then seek some sort of binding defense agreement, whether NATO or something else. And if necessary do it in secrecy so Russia doesn’t hear about it until the agreement is fully in force.
Honestly I just think the US is simply not reliable, and with Ukraine seemingly relying heavily on the US, they need to be looking for the quickest exit strategy they can come up with at a moment of strength.
Hopefully, if Republicans prevent continued US support, other countries will still provide enough…I just fear it may not be, and that seems like a worse outcome for Ukraine’s people.
I hope they do, but this is why I’ve always thought Ukraine needed to be a little less hard-line on not giving up any territory. Because I figured it was only a matter of time before the Republicans (and other similar parties/groups in other countries) ratfucked the support away from them.
I don’t know if Russia was ever open to negotiating, but if they were, Ukraine may find themselves wishing they had negotiated at a high point, instead of their support being pulled out from under them.
Sadly, the US is simply not a reliable ally or source of support right now, and probably won’t be until getting the internal insanity under control. Until there are two parties actually willing to govern instead of one party trying to govern and the other acting like a deranged shit-flinging baboon, the US will be unreliable.
If Ukraine gives up territory they have established that a large invasion will yield positive results, giving Russia an incentive to try again for more. Given that, in Ukraine’s position, what would you do? Choose to continue fighting, or choose to stop fighting now and then have to start fighting again in five years having given up loads of your ports and industrial base? You would need a guarantee that it would not happen.
What guarantee would you seek? The only one that makes sense to me is NATO membership, and that is exactly the situation Russia least wants to happen - they will not accept any deal in which Ukraine becomes a NATO member.
The reason for that is because more generally Russia wants to be able to threaten and conquer its neighbours at will. In other words, any attempt you make to guarantee Ukraine’s safety after a deal is struck is actually undermining Russia’s long-term goals and so will be refused. Russia only ever talked about negotiating to muddy the waters.
The only way to end the war favourably for the West and for democracies is for Russia to be defeated.
If it was me in their place, I’d try giving up as little as possible then seek some sort of binding defense agreement, whether NATO or something else. And if necessary do it in secrecy so Russia doesn’t hear about it until the agreement is fully in force.
Honestly I just think the US is simply not reliable, and with Ukraine seemingly relying heavily on the US, they need to be looking for the quickest exit strategy they can come up with at a moment of strength.
Hopefully, if Republicans prevent continued US support, other countries will still provide enough…I just fear it may not be, and that seems like a worse outcome for Ukraine’s people.
They already tried that after Russia took Crimea, and then Russia went ahead and invaded the rest of Ukraine anyway.
What part of your country are you willing to give up to the russians?