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minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down2·1 year ago Any non-trump vote for anyone but Biden aids the trump campaign as much as staying home. right. but the same is true in reverse: any non-biden vote for anyone but trump aids the biden campaign as much as staying home. because that’s how voting works. when you don’t vote for someone, you don’t help their campaign.
minus-squareGBU_28@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up4arrow-down1·1 year agoPlease go learn what spoilers are. The spoiler is attached to what it is nearest. For example, if desantis ran as an independent, he would be a trump spoiler. Splitting republican votes, and harming Trump’s chances of winning.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down2·1 year agoyou’re talking down to me like i haven’t voted against every president who has won since 2012.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down3·1 year ago Please go learn what spoilers are. this is condescending. i know what democrats and republicans call spoilers. i also know that they both want to preserve their own power.
minus-squareGBU_28@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·1 year agoAnd effectively, who you are voting FOR
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·1 year agoand who i am actually voting for. tell me, when i voted for howie hawkins, was i really voting for biden?
minus-squareGBU_28@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·1 year agoWhoever the 3rd party was ideologically closest to, you were voting for the OTHER frontrunner. As the green party is CLOSEST to the Democratic party, you effectively voted Republican by taking a left leaning vote off the table.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·1 year ago Whoever the 3rd party was ideologically closest to, you were voting for the OTHER frontrunner. no, i was voting for howie.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·1 year ago you effectively voted Republican no. i voted green.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·1 year ago As the green party is CLOSEST to the Democratic party, you effectively voted Republican by taking a left leaning vote off the table. joe biden doesn’t lean left, and neither does his super-cop vp.
right. but the same is true in reverse: any non-biden vote for anyone but trump aids the biden campaign as much as staying home.
because that’s how voting works. when you don’t vote for someone, you don’t help their campaign.
Please go learn what spoilers are.
The spoiler is attached to what it is nearest.
For example, if desantis ran as an independent, he would be a trump spoiler. Splitting republican votes, and harming Trump’s chances of winning.
you’re talking down to me like i haven’t voted against every president who has won since 2012.
this is condescending. i know what democrats and republicans call spoilers. i also know that they both want to preserve their own power.
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And effectively, who you are voting FOR
and who i am actually voting for. tell me, when i voted for howie hawkins, was i really voting for biden?
Whoever the 3rd party was ideologically closest to, you were voting for the OTHER frontrunner.
As the green party is CLOSEST to the Democratic party, you effectively voted Republican by taking a left leaning vote off the table.
no, i was voting for howie.
no. i voted green.
joe biden doesn’t lean left, and neither does his super-cop vp.