Hate on Biden all you want, but please vote for him. Trump is worse. Trump was behind moving the US embassy to Jerusalem. Trump instituted a ban on travel to the USA from some (note some) Muslim majority countries. If Trump gets elected, expect Project 2025 to come to fruition.
Trump is a Zionist too. He officially recognized Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel. Anybody who thinks they will fix the Israel problem by not voting for Biden is sorely mistaken.
It shows where the US stands compared to other countries in a democracy index. But it sounds like you aren’t interested, so I’m sorry to have bothered you.
It shows where a bunch of British conservatives think the US stands on a ‘democracy index’ they made up themselves. Oh what a shock, they think their allies are democratic and their enemies aren’t. Why should I care
Did you think the ‘democracy index’ was handed down by God on a gold tablet?
Funny, that’s exactly what I was told in 2020 when I asked about 2024, and yet here we are once again, once again being yelled at about how we have no choice but to vote for the right wing war criminal.
I’m not sure what you’re alluding to. One party probably won’t win every election until the end of days, nor should it. However, votes are one way that we have a voice in government, and your government represents you less when your voice isn’t heard.
democracy is just going to end sooner or later anyway
This is speculative, and a bad reason to not vote on purpose. The US has a flawed democracy, and it can get better. Voting won’t “fix” our government alone, but not voting is a guaranteed way to let others choose and vote for you.
Hate on Biden all you want, but please vote for him. Trump is worse. Trump was behind moving the US embassy to Jerusalem. Trump instituted a ban on travel to the USA from some (note some) Muslim majority countries. If Trump gets elected, expect Project 2025 to come to fruition.
Trump is a Zionist too. He officially recognized Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel. Anybody who thinks they will fix the Israel problem by not voting for Biden is sorely mistaken.
I doubt people think they can “fix the Israel problem by not voting for Biden”.
It’s more that they refuse to vote for an asshole.
I made a graphic about why this is important
In french, we call this “useful vote” and it sucks when it is a crucial strategy… but in a flawed electoral system it unfortunately is.
If there’s only one candidate and you have to vote for him, then it’s not a democracy
You might find this Wikipedia page interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index
Why?
It shows where the US stands compared to other countries in a democracy index. But it sounds like you aren’t interested, so I’m sorry to have bothered you.
It shows where a bunch of British conservatives think the US stands on a ‘democracy index’ they made up themselves. Oh what a shock, they think their allies are democratic and their enemies aren’t. Why should I care
Did you think the ‘democracy index’ was handed down by God on a gold tablet?
I only mentioned that you might find it interesting. Please take your emotions elsewhere.
You guys are so f*cking screwed 🤷
stg democrats are trying so fucking hard to cause a schism party
So what are you going to do in 2028 if Biden does win?
just keep voting blue so they move left
trump, while being in office, will pull the overton window much further than you would by not voting
A fact the dems don’t seem to be concerned about. We have 2 right wing parties
the democrat party is right-wing. the Republican party is batshit fascist set on changing the rules, and they don’t fight fair
Ah of course. Once they know you’ll vote for them no matter what they do, they’re sure to move left.
It sucks that the alternative is “or autocratic fascism” but sometimes that’s life.
Oh spare me, Dems have been saying that for every election in my life time. Does the phrase Vote or Die ring any bells?
When you try to claim every election is the last one, it loses its urgency.
absolutely nobody is claiming that it’s the last election or that the next one will have a better democrat. you’re just making shit up
Literally the guy I replied too.
literally you can’t read for shit. no offense dude but pay more attention
grass roots activism and talking shit on the internet the same as before
Funny, that’s exactly what I was told in 2020 when I asked about 2024, and yet here we are once again, once again being yelled at about how we have no choice but to vote for the right wing war criminal.
yeah why would it be different? it’s the same situation. with the same people in it…
So why should I expect it to be different in '28?
you shouldn’t. i don’t know what your point is
So you were lying earlier?
…what
Same thing as every election: vote!
So the plan is to win every election from now until the end of days? I’m not if that’s realistic.
I’m not sure what you’re alluding to. One party probably won’t win every election until the end of days, nor should it. However, votes are one way that we have a voice in government, and your government represents you less when your voice isn’t heard.
So if democracy is just going to end sooner or later anyway, why bother vote?
This is speculative, and a bad reason to not vote on purpose. The US has a flawed democracy, and it can get better. Voting won’t “fix” our government alone, but not voting is a guaranteed way to let others choose and vote for you.
Eh? I’ve been told, categorically, in the very thread, that I have to vote Biden or American democracy will end
I made a graphic that describes what others have probably recommended:
If you vote for a candidate that you know will lose, then it practically makes the same impact as not voting at all.
Trump is not the only republican option to vote on
All republican options would be worse than Biden. Biden sucks but republicans suck more.
Is he going to be alive by then?
I wasn’t aware Biden had won the nomination. I know the establishment is openly canceling elections, but vote Biden to save Democracy!