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    Outdoor cat: “today I killed 300 birds and permanently altered the local ecosystem”

    Indoor cat: “hehe I shit in a box”

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      Not how cats work. Nice job getting butthurt about a funny comic on the internet, though.

      And just so you can be better informed in the future. Feral cats are the ones affecting the ecosystem. Outdoor house cats have a negligible influence on wildlife. Let your cat go outside sometimes.

      And, just a guess, you should probably go outside sometimes too.

      "The magnitude of mortality they cause in mainland areas remains speculative, with large-scale estimates based on non-systematic analyses and little consideration of scientific data. Here we conduct a systematic review and quantitatively estimate mortality caused by cats in the United States. We estimate that free-ranging domestic cats kill 1.3–4.0 billion birds and 6.3–22.3 billion mammals annually. Un-owned cats, as opposed to owned pets, cause the majority of this mortality."

      Downvoting doesn’t make you right and it doesn’t make your cats less miserable.

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        Thats exactly how cats work.

        The comic is funny and cute, but dont get it twisted. The science is pretty firm on the destructive effects of invasive domestic cats.

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          "The magnitude of mortality they cause in mainland areas remains speculative, with large-scale estimates based on non-systematic analyses and little consideration of scientific data. Here we conduct a systematic review and quantitatively estimate mortality caused by cats in the United States. We estimate that free-ranging domestic cats kill 1.3–4.0 billion birds and 6.3–22.3 billion mammals annually. Un-owned cats, as opposed to owned pets, cause the majority of this mortality."

          Maybe don’t believe every sensationalized social media article that’s really just a barely disguised cat litter ad.

          “The science is pretty firm” lmao

    • And so begins a new battle in the eternal war between Americans with indoor cats and others with outdoor cats.

      It’s pretty difficult to actually find an indoor cat in the UK. In the US it’s common.

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        I guess we in Finland are Americand now lol

        We’re more worried about the cats wellbeing though than the birds.

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        And thats why the wild felines are going extinct in the british isles.

        Ay, but tradition right? Fuck the natives, as is british tradition

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          Yeah the British really do have a history of royally fucking over whole eco systems. Brought rabbits to Australia thinking they would be a good food source.

          Except they bred like well rabbits. And destroyed whole eco systems. So the British imported foxes to eat the rabbits. Except literally every other native species is easier for a fox to kill than a fast rabbit.

          Fucking morons.

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            That’s a bit of a harsh take considering it was one guy on the 19th century who didn’t know better. Looking at it he brought 13 rabbits for his private estate - I don’t think the science was there for extended Environmental Impact Studies back then - just some rich guy making a minor change to his place having unintended consequences so branding an entire country as fucking morons is a bit much.

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    Realistically, outdoor cats don’t travel much. They just hang out in their neighborhood, chill in their favorite spots, etc.

    Cats have their territory and that’s where they spend their time, doing cat things. It’s just that an outdoor cat’s territory isn’t limited by walls.

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      There was a BBC documentary a few years ago where they gave GPS tracking collars to a bunch of cats in a neighbourhood and tracked where they went. Each of the cats had their own territory and favourite locations.

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      Murder local wildlife, cause property damage to neighbors, kill neighbors pets, spread disease. Roaming cats suck, and so do their entitled owners who think that everyone’s property belongs to their pet

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        While we’re at it, let’s get rid of birds that shit on everything, deer that eat our gardens, raccoons that get in our trash, skunks that dig up our grass …

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        Wherever there’s birds, it’s irresponsible to let cats out. NZ in particular, it’s a damn massacre out there.

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          In the UK, the RSPB determines no negative impacts on bird populations. And the ecosystem is irrecoverably damaged from 3000 years of human impact on a relatively small island. Unlike new colonies like NZ, USA etc.

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            The UK is losing its wildcat population because of british arrogance about cats.

            Youre also bringing in all your local predators into human settlements with the free food that cats become. Foxes love outdoor cats, theyre easy meals. You know what else loves cats? Tires. Smears a cat like jam.

            But whats another destroyed ecosystem to the brits? Yall love ruining ecosystems, may as well fill your own backyard with piss.

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              The wildcats are in Northern Scotland. I’d be OK with the Scots banning outdoor cats.

              Foxes like bins, they don’t fight back.

              I’ve seen maybe 1 domestic cat hit by a car, I’ve seen hundreds of hedgehogs, foxes, badgers and deer. That’s not an outdoor cat problem.

              It’s easy to sit on a moral high horse about a country you don’t really know anything about. We didn’t come to this land 300 years ago. The concept of an intact ecosystem vanished about 1000 years ago. It is a completely different island. The best we can do is keep the last of our wild species ticking over.

              Unlike the Americans, who exploited and continue to exploit one of the most beautiful lands in the world, when they should have known better.