I agree. I mean usually 30 will be snow but basically onces its below 40 I would prefer below 30 if precipitation is involved. cold rain is the worst. seeps in and you have to let your jacket and such dry and if you have to go out before they dry. ugh.
You can dress appropriately for -40-50 and still be reasonably commfie for extended periods.
Particularly if you stay dry.
But it’s impossible to stay dry in persistent drizzle or heavy rain. At best you’re wearing several layers of wool and you’re warm but damp and miserable.
Impermeable shells require venting opening you to the cold wet seepage, and permeable shells will eventually fail if you stay out long enough.
Oh ffs, this entire thread is a pissing match between people dispersed in multiple climates.
I’ve lived in -40°F winters but I’m sat here in SoCal tonight with 50°F nighttime lows freezing my ass off.
How is that possible? It’s called acclimation. Go to a climate opposite of yours sometime for at least two weeks then come back. You’ll probably notice real quick that your home climate is the one that feels weird because you’ve acclimated to your new climate.
I’m well aware of that. I’ve spent time in tropical area as, was born in Oceanside and now live in MN.
That mid-50’s are time for winter jackets in SoCal doesn’t change the fact that people can dress for -40’s and be reasonably comfortable.
30’s and wet is an entirely different matter. As I said. That shit seeps. (It’d also some of the most dangerous. More people die of hypothermia in 40-50’s than they do the very cold. Probably because they don’t respect it as much.)
In my experience I can’t really feel any difference below zero, whether it’s -5 -20 or -40, I just can tell that I have less time outside before it’s too cold to stay out
54 degree fahrenheit is cold? not where im from. Now the under 40 degree rain we just had. that was cold.
When it’s rainy? It’s rather unpleasant. It’s not the worst. That’s 30’s and rainy. (0c)
That shit seeps and nothing wholesome ever seeps.
Give me -40 and snowy any day over freezing and wet.
I agree. I mean usually 30 will be snow but basically onces its below 40 I would prefer below 30 if precipitation is involved. cold rain is the worst. seeps in and you have to let your jacket and such dry and if you have to go out before they dry. ugh.
Sloppy nasty snow.
Or worse. That poorly defined stuff that’s not sleet, not snow, and not rain. And the worst of all of it.
yeah when it comes down to it, its about being wet over dry. Like when it melts once it touches you. If I can stay dry its much better.
Things get pretty uncomfortable when you get below -20.
You can dress appropriately for -40-50 and still be reasonably commfie for extended periods.
Particularly if you stay dry.
But it’s impossible to stay dry in persistent drizzle or heavy rain. At best you’re wearing several layers of wool and you’re warm but damp and miserable.
Impermeable shells require venting opening you to the cold wet seepage, and permeable shells will eventually fail if you stay out long enough.
Oh ffs, this entire thread is a pissing match between people dispersed in multiple climates.
I’ve lived in -40°F winters but I’m sat here in SoCal tonight with 50°F nighttime lows freezing my ass off.
How is that possible? It’s called acclimation. Go to a climate opposite of yours sometime for at least two weeks then come back. You’ll probably notice real quick that your home climate is the one that feels weird because you’ve acclimated to your new climate.
I’m well aware of that. I’ve spent time in tropical area as, was born in Oceanside and now live in MN.
That mid-50’s are time for winter jackets in SoCal doesn’t change the fact that people can dress for -40’s and be reasonably comfortable.
30’s and wet is an entirely different matter. As I said. That shit seeps. (It’d also some of the most dangerous. More people die of hypothermia in 40-50’s than they do the very cold. Probably because they don’t respect it as much.)
In my experience I can’t really feel any difference below zero, whether it’s -5 -20 or -40, I just can tell that I have less time outside before it’s too cold to stay out
Depending on where you are, even 60F can be considered cold.