The Trump administration has begun flying undocumented immigrants from the US to a military detention facility at Guantánamo Bay in Cuba, the White House press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, said on Tuesday.
Leavitt told Fox Business Network that at least two deportation flights were “under way”, but gave no further details.
Her comments, however, appeared to confirm reporting by the Wall Street Journal, citing an anonymous official with knowledge of the operation, that about a dozen immigrants were onboard one flight from Fort Bliss, Texas. The newspaper said an additional flight had departed on Monday.
CNN later reported one of the flights had “about nine or 10” people onboard who were detained in the US without valid immigration documents.
Where are you going to send them? Many times the immigrants home countries deny they are their citizens and refuse to accept them back. What do you do then?
Good question. Where to put them, when the camps are full? How much money is it going to cost to imprison millions for life? Is there a more efficient solution?
Your brain right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA_uJOnAnoQ&t=1456s
Sometimes deals can be arranged with countries of origin (or nearby), even if it takes time and diplomatic effort (and probably some compensation to the receiver).
If that fails, and anyways until that succeeds (if ever), you still have to treat these people as humans with dignity and rights.
If they are criminals, they serve their time like anyone else.
But first and foremost, if only for pragmatic reasons, society should look for ways to integrate these individuals in a way which benefits everyone; as a productive member. Most people don’t strive to live in misery, and they probably came to your country in hopes of a better future. Help them build that, and everybody might win.
The alternative is to become a monster yourself and still have no answers.
Are you suggesting that imprisoning them indefinitely is somehow the correct solution?
It’s a fair question. Got nothing better than to deflect with another question?
OP is asking for a solution. I ain’t got it. Do you? I’m listening, really I am.
Suppose it doesn’t matter what we think as this administration will do whatever the fuck they please, but it’s at least a fair intellectual exercise.
Tell me, does the first one I suggest have to be my final solution, or am I allowed to workshop?
Asking for a solution to the question of what to do with a type of person. That’s the reason the Nazis built concentration camps too.
Turns out you don’t actually need to imprison people in extrajudicial torture camps, you can just treat them with a shred of human decency instead.
Like we’ve been dealing with immigrants for centuries, practically every nation has, we don’t need a ‘final solution’, we can process them individually and find solutions dynamically based on the needs and situation of the individual. Sometimes that means deportation, sometimes it means granting asylum, and sometimes it means working with our allies to find a suitable destination. Imprisoning them in Guantanamo bay is not a solution, it’s a pretense for extermination.
It’s such a fair question that literally at no other time in America’s history did a president feel the need to use an extrajudicial torture prison as a deportation zone. WhAt CoUlD pOSsiBlY bE tHe AlTeRnAtIvE?! Idiot.
Im not sure that’s accurate given how racist many presidents were.
There is “no correct solution”. What would you suggest?
Giving everyone a reasonable path to citizenship. Immigration is good. It’s good economically, culturally, and morally. The only argument against immigration is bigotry.
Who says they’re planning to send them anywhere?
That is what deportation means, to send them back to their country of origin. If their home country refuses to accept them or denies they are their citizens then what do you do then?
Well, for now they’re being deported to Guantanamo Bay. That doesn’t necessarily mean they will then also be deported to their home countries. I could very well see the Trump administration keep thousands of people there indefinitely and have them do slave labor (which is legal in the US).
The unwritten implication is that they will be used for slave labour, tortured, and/or killed. It really depends on how fascist and violent Trump wants it to get. Guantanamo Bay is not outfitted for mass detention, so you connect the dots.
So it is your belief that Trump is going to move thousands maybe 10’s of thousands of immigrants to Guantanamo Bay to enslave, torture, and murder them. Do you even know how ridiculous you are?
Oh hey look, an idiot/Nazi!
Notice how I didn’t say murder, I said killed. That can easily happen in detention facilities due to neglect and lack of medical care, especially as it gets crammed full of too many people. I’m not saying there’s no possibility that there will be murders, but I definitively did not say murder in my last comment because no, it is not my belief that Trump is planning to exterminate migrants at this current point in time. The labour and torture is probably imminent though, Guantanamo is pretty famous for it.
Yeah, I mean, such a thing has never happened before. How ridiculous. Transporting thousands or even millions of people into camps to let them work themselves to death or to just kill them. Nobody would ever do such a thing!
They’re sending them to their auntie’s farm up north