crossposted from here: https://lemmy.eus/post/10482

I believe that XMPP is one of the best protocols for chat communications there is, and I stand up for it. However, the clients that there are, are not comfortable for most people out there used to apps like Telegram, Whatsapp or whatever.

One can defend current XMPP clients saying that quoting with "> " is the traditional way, or that swiping to quote a message is not worth developing; I have plenty more examples like this.
Well, if you think so, OK, use those clients for yourself, but become aware that many people won’t use XMPP for just this reason.

After saying all this, I want to tell that I am willing to develop a new, modern looking and comfortable client for XMPP. I think of a client for Android in first instance, but I would have no problem on going further.

However, I don’t know programming, so I’m searching programmers who would like to get involved in this.
Although I’m not programmer, I have experience developing software projects, from internationalization to documentation, including ideas about features, testing and all other work there can be.

Will you help me spreading the word? :)

  • sibachian@lemmy.ml
    4·
    3 years ago

    For me, another problem with the XMPP protocol is the lack of modern chat functions such as editing sent messages, but modern features would probably not be able bring back users.

    In a perfect world, facebook and google etc would never have moved away from XMPP to try and poach users with their home baked protocols. Unfortunately, I don’t see how XMPP can return when people simply choose to lose half their friendlist rather than change to an XMPP client when these giants isolated their users. I mean, even in the case of a superior client (heck, facebook messenger is still one of the most used chats and it’s also one of the least feature-rich and plenty-a-buggy electron that seems to insist freezing/not displaying messages).

    • poVoq@lemmy.ml
      4·
      3 years ago

      Many XMPP clients do support editing send messages, but I agree, simply adding some more convenience features will not bring back users to XMPP.

        • marmulak@lemmy.ml
          1·
          3 years ago

          All the ones I use personally support this: Conversations, Dino, and profanity. I’d be surprised if Gajim didn’t, too.

          The caveat seems to be that you can only edit the last message you sent.

          • poVoq@lemmy.ml
            2·
            3 years ago

            In Gajim you need to press ctrl+up to edit the last message.

            Its true that the XEP says only the last message, but ConverseJS for example also allows older messages to be edited.

    • PorruOPA
      1·
      3 years ago

      Very good point. Anyway, I believe it’s worth making more comfortable the clients, even if it’s for us; but as well being aware of the point that having a modern client would make it easier that people trying XMPP out keeps there for more time.