Harm reduction works and as much as I abhor the Israeli genocide of Palestinians the people who stayed home because Kamala wouldn’t acknowledge genocide are still complicit in Trump’s reelection.
I’m judging the people who stayed home, too; just not as harshly. There were at least two candidates on the ballot who had the correct position on Gaza, so those voters don’t have an excuse.
Voting for a candidate that won’t clear 5% is just as bad if not worse than skipping out on the election. That protest vote was summarily ignored before it was even cast and won’t effect any level of change. Anybody who decided Kamala’s refusal was worse than Trump’s everything has fallen victim to the same right-wing disinformation that MAGAts have been slurping up harder than an altar boy at a Catholic Church for a decade.
Voting for a candidate that won’t clear 5% is just as bad if not worse than skipping out on the election.
I’m still going to do the right thing, even if only .0000000000000001% are doing the right thing.
The question isn’t why am I trying to help Stein win; the question is why you aren’t.
That protest vote was summarily ignored before it was even cast and won’t effect any level of change.
I don’t protest vote. I think that’s stupid. That would be like writing in Mickey Mouse or something like that. I’m voting for a candidate’s platform that I believe in, not against another candidate’s. Ironically, a “protest vote” would more accurately reflect many votes for Harris, i.e. people who didn’t care about her platform but wanted to stop Trump.
BTW, my vote was not ignored. It was counted. You can see how many votes Stein got on her Wikipedia article.
I’m still going to do the right thing, even if only .0000000000000001% are doing the right thing.
So you are admitting, in your own words, you’re not interested in doing anything useful, you only care about grandstanding on your soapbox about your proclaimed moral superiority.
You and everyone who didn’t bother to vote for the ONLY candidate who had a chance to win against trump made a path for his reelection. Your arrogant stupidity contributed to making the living nightmare of the west bank and gaza palestinians 10 times worse. You can choke on your dumb rationalisation.
Everyone who voted for Harris demonstrated that genocide was not a deal-breaker for them. Gazans being starved, tortured, and killed was not a red line for them. And yet they pretend that this position gives them the moral high ground to condemn others, as you’re doing here.
I understand why you’re angry, but that anger should be directed towards the Democratic establishment: Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and all the rest who enabled a genocide.
Everyone who voted for Harris demonstrated that genocide was not a deal-breaker for them. Gazans being starved, tortured, and killed was not a red line for them. And yet they pretend that this position gives them the moral high ground to condemn others, as you’re doing here.
but that anger should be directed towards the Democratic establishment: Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and all the rest who enabled a genocide.
You like to point fingers don’t you. Everyone but yourself. Not you, no, you were the true brave champion of justice for Palestine when you cast that Jill Stein ballot knowing full well she had NO CHANCE of winning. But your actions, and everyone else’s who didn’t push against trump getting re-elected, now have consequences, and those consequences are dire for palestinians. Now the genocide is on steroids, and I don’t remember hearing one word of protest about it from this corrupt administration even as a formality. But I do remember reading very recently about starving refugees from gaza being barred from getting asylum and entry in the US with one phonecall from that ghoul Laura Loomer who was gloating about it.
Yours and the collective inaction against the re-election of trump also have dire consequences for Ukraine, for Europe, for the world and US economy, for the environment, for people getting kidnapped, sequestered and deported to Salvadoran prisons by ICE, for scientific research, and democracy in general. Yes the Democratic establishment is guilty of its share of blame, but do not delude yourself, there’s plenty of responsibility to go around. You helped make this. So take your share of responsibility. Own it. It’s yours.
I understand why you’re angry
No you do not. Otherwise you would stop trying to paint yourself as some hero of justice and just shut up about the bad choice you made that was motivated by your bad fucking take.
And how’s that Trump support working out for Palestine? Because as someone who voted for Kamala this is playing out exactly like everyone said it would - more dead innocent Palestinians and Gaza being handed to Netanyahu on a bloody platter
When did she say that? She gave every indication that she would continue Biden’s policies.
A vote for Stein was effectively a vote for the current regime.
When has Stein ever endorsed genocide?
Hope you’re happy with the results
If you’re a Biden-Harris voter, you’re the one who should be happy. Trump is only continuing Biden’s policies. Agreeing with Biden’s position on Gaza but disagreeing with Trump’s position must take some serious mental gymnastics.
At the top of my head, I would say not declare that she intends to raze gaza to the ground, deport all the palestinians, and then turn it into a fucking resort bearing her name.
Yeah, imagine caring about people in another country that you’ll never even meet. I mean, how do I even know that Gaza is real? It might just be something that Jeffrey Epstein and Vladimir Putin made up to make Democrats look bad!
Just to clarify: People are assuming you voted for Trump (or at least not for Harris) in an effort to support Palestine
The result of Trump being elected is the current situation, where there is a very real possibility of Israel taking complete control of the Gaza Strip and genociding or displacing all Palestinians currently there
When it comes to the Gaza Strip, Harris was the lesser of two evils. Anyone who voted for Trump, or a 3rd party, helped Netanyahu commit genocide free of American interference. Trump’s America is even giving Bibi huge political and material support, far in excess of what America has ever given before
If that accurately describes you, then we’re all on the same page. If it doesn’t, you may want to clarify your comments now
Personally I assumed third party. It’s the common bullshit line they spout despite knowing third party candidates have little to no chance of winning under our current electoral system. They voted idealistically instead of practically and pat themselves on the back as if their protest votes actually meant anything.
Genocide is a black-and-white issue. When voting, the second-best thing you can do is not vote for a pro-genocide candidate. The best thing you can do is vote for an anti-genocide candidate. In this election, there were two: Cornel West and Jill Stein.
It sucks that third party candidates have no chance to win without major overhauls in how our political system works. Those overhauls haven’t happened yet, unfortunately, and everyone voting third party for the reasons you state knew it during the last election. I’m sure the people in Palestine would be tripping over their emaciated children to line up and sniff your farts with you.
Fuck every last person who did not vote for the person who had a chance of defeating him too.
Fuck every last person who voted against Gaza. Free Palestine.
Letting Trump win has directly led to the slaughter of thousands of Palestinians. Along with all the other horrors of his reign.
I didn’t “let Trump win”. I can’t control how other people vote.
Harm reduction works and as much as I abhor the Israeli genocide of Palestinians the people who stayed home because Kamala wouldn’t acknowledge genocide are still complicit in Trump’s reelection.
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I’m judging the people who stayed home, too; just not as harshly. There were at least two candidates on the ballot who had the correct position on Gaza, so those voters don’t have an excuse.
Voting for a candidate that won’t clear 5% is just as bad if not worse than skipping out on the election. That protest vote was summarily ignored before it was even cast and won’t effect any level of change. Anybody who decided Kamala’s refusal was worse than Trump’s everything has fallen victim to the same right-wing disinformation that MAGAts have been slurping up harder than an altar boy at a Catholic Church for a decade.
I’m still going to do the right thing, even if only .0000000000000001% are doing the right thing.
The question isn’t why am I trying to help Stein win; the question is why you aren’t.
I don’t protest vote. I think that’s stupid. That would be like writing in Mickey Mouse or something like that. I’m voting for a candidate’s platform that I believe in, not against another candidate’s. Ironically, a “protest vote” would more accurately reflect many votes for Harris, i.e. people who didn’t care about her platform but wanted to stop Trump.
BTW, my vote was not ignored. It was counted. You can see how many votes Stein got on her Wikipedia article.
So you are admitting, in your own words, you’re not interested in doing anything useful, you only care about grandstanding on your soapbox about your proclaimed moral superiority.
You and everyone who didn’t bother to vote for the ONLY candidate who had a chance to win against trump made a path for his reelection. Your arrogant stupidity contributed to making the living nightmare of the west bank and gaza palestinians 10 times worse. You can choke on your dumb rationalisation.
Everyone who voted for Harris demonstrated that genocide was not a deal-breaker for them. Gazans being starved, tortured, and killed was not a red line for them. And yet they pretend that this position gives them the moral high ground to condemn others, as you’re doing here.
I understand why you’re angry, but that anger should be directed towards the Democratic establishment: Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and all the rest who enabled a genocide.
You like to point fingers don’t you. Everyone but yourself. Not you, no, you were the true brave champion of justice for Palestine when you cast that Jill Stein ballot knowing full well she had NO CHANCE of winning. But your actions, and everyone else’s who didn’t push against trump getting re-elected, now have consequences, and those consequences are dire for palestinians. Now the genocide is on steroids, and I don’t remember hearing one word of protest about it from this corrupt administration even as a formality. But I do remember reading very recently about starving refugees from gaza being barred from getting asylum and entry in the US with one phonecall from that ghoul Laura Loomer who was gloating about it.
Yours and the collective inaction against the re-election of trump also have dire consequences for Ukraine, for Europe, for the world and US economy, for the environment, for people getting kidnapped, sequestered and deported to Salvadoran prisons by ICE, for scientific research, and democracy in general. Yes the Democratic establishment is guilty of its share of blame, but do not delude yourself, there’s plenty of responsibility to go around. You helped make this. So take your share of responsibility. Own it. It’s yours.
No you do not. Otherwise you would stop trying to paint yourself as some hero of justice and just shut up about the bad choice you made that was motivated by your bad fucking take.
Looks like not voting for Harris really helped that situation.
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fuck off.
And how’s that Trump support working out for Palestine? Because as someone who voted for Kamala this is playing out exactly like everyone said it would - more dead innocent Palestinians and Gaza being handed to Netanyahu on a bloody platter
As someone who voted for Jill Stein, what did you think that Kamala was going to do differently?
Not supported genocide, for one
A vote for Stein was effectively a vote for the current regime. Hope you’re happy with the results
When did she say that? She gave every indication that she would continue Biden’s policies.
When has Stein ever endorsed genocide?
If you’re a Biden-Harris voter, you’re the one who should be happy. Trump is only continuing Biden’s policies. Agreeing with Biden’s position on Gaza but disagreeing with Trump’s position must take some serious mental gymnastics.
At the top of my head, I would say not declare that she intends to raze gaza to the ground, deport all the palestinians, and then turn it into a fucking resort bearing her name.
How’s that working out for you and the Gazans you claim to hold so dear?
Yeah, imagine caring about people in another country that you’ll never even meet. I mean, how do I even know that Gaza is real? It might just be something that Jeffrey Epstein and Vladimir Putin made up to make Democrats look bad!
Just to clarify: People are assuming you voted for Trump (or at least not for Harris) in an effort to support Palestine
The result of Trump being elected is the current situation, where there is a very real possibility of Israel taking complete control of the Gaza Strip and genociding or displacing all Palestinians currently there
When it comes to the Gaza Strip, Harris was the lesser of two evils. Anyone who voted for Trump, or a 3rd party, helped Netanyahu commit genocide free of American interference. Trump’s America is even giving Bibi huge political and material support, far in excess of what America has ever given before
If that accurately describes you, then we’re all on the same page. If it doesn’t, you may want to clarify your comments now
Personally I assumed third party. It’s the common bullshit line they spout despite knowing third party candidates have little to no chance of winning under our current electoral system. They voted idealistically instead of practically and pat themselves on the back as if their protest votes actually meant anything.
Genocide is a black-and-white issue. When voting, the second-best thing you can do is not vote for a pro-genocide candidate. The best thing you can do is vote for an anti-genocide candidate. In this election, there were two: Cornel West and Jill Stein.
It sucks that third party candidates have no chance to win without major overhauls in how our political system works. Those overhauls haven’t happened yet, unfortunately, and everyone voting third party for the reasons you state knew it during the last election. I’m sure the people in Palestine would be tripping over their emaciated children to line up and sniff your farts with you.