Me literally every time my friends start bitching about Instagram.
I’m always like “who the fuck uses Instagram?” I guess I’m living in a different world entirely.
One of my DnD groups only share IG memes so I never see them because I don’t have IG.
My negative outlook on life pushes friends away so I don’t have that problem.
You’re playing D&D with losers
You should have a better DnD group
Primarily 20s-30s something women. If you’re not that demographic, you might not be keen on is usage.
Just remember, people will be more open to trying the stuff you’re into if you’re compassionate about the things they’re frustrated with!
(This is intended for anyone who wants friends or acquaintances to try the fediverse platforms. For those who don’t or don’t care that’s perfectly valid too :)
What’s the second logo?
First picture I found on Google for each because I’m lazy but there they are with pictures attached.
Piefed
Lemmy
Mastodon
Pixelfed
Most of these names are absolutely atrocious.
To be fair, are there any social media platforms that don’t have a kind of stupid name?
Its one of the two hard problems of computer science after all
Most of the big ones at least have some kind of coherence behind their naming scheme.
The open source stuff is like: prehistoric hairy elephant, misspelled name of animal used as a metaphorical comparison for people doing dumb shit in a mob which seems to be insulting it’s users, and then some random words slapped onto the word fed - none of which sound good.
I thought Diaspora was a decent sounding name. If it had more traction and actually pulled a sizeable diaspora away from Facebook it would have fit better than Facebook, Twitter/X, or Instagram’s names.
The outer right one? This is lemmy. A link aggregator like reddit
Right. But what’s the one on the left?
Pixelfed
Piefed?
It’s like Lemmy but with consolidated comments, flairs, spoilers, polls, topics, feeds (like multireddits), proper blocks, hashtags, piped video integration, disclaimer messages, better mod and reporting tools.
Is it like, a whole other network with different people or is it like a different front-end to the lemmyverse ? This is kind of confusing ? And what about that “kbin” I keep hearing about, is that the same deal ?
Lemmy is a software that people can host on their computer, and many people doing that form what is essentially a bunch of mini-reddits that can talk to each other to create one big platform.
Piefed is trying to fulfill the same goals as Lemmy, and is even fully compatible with Lemmy, so someone hosting a piefed server on their computer can join in with all the Lemmy servers, and to the Lemmy people, it appears to them like any other Lemmy server.
But underneath everything, the code base is entirely different. The commonality they share, along with mastodon, is they all use ActivityPub, which is the standard that allows them to all communicate and be compatible with each other, just like there’s an email standard.
Kbin (now Mbin) is yet another Lemmy compatible software that you can host on your computer, but it also tried to implement features that make it more like mastodon (twitter-like), so it can act both like reddit, with threads and comments and communities around single subjects, or be like mastodon and work with hashtags and following individuals instead of communities, like a microblogging website.
They also use different interfaces, but it’s only visible to people who directly use that server; to others who access it from their home server, it’ll adopt the look of the software their home server is using.
So as an example, you are using Lemmy since your home server is Lemmy.ml. if you visit a community hosted on a piefed server from within your Lemmy, like !fullmoviesonyoutube@piefed.social, it’ll look like any other Lemmy community.
But if you directly go to that piefed server by going to https://piefed.social/c/fullmoviesonyoutube you’ll see it from the piefed interface, since you’re accessing that piefed server directly.
All of three of the different federated Reddit-like softwares are intercompatible, so they all make up one big network.
Remember this big discussion? https://lemmy.ml/post/36058152
PieFed has had that feature for a long time, and many more besides. https://join.piefed.social/features/
Is there a piefed/mbin backend server or is it just an alternative webui client ?
I’m thinking of switching to a self-hosted single user lemmy instance and run all 3 self-hosted clients to my self-hosted server, is that practical ?
Yes, backend server.
https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/branch/main/INSTALL.md
You could run all 3 but it would be redundant as they all have the same content and people :D
Neither. It’s fully compatible with Lemmy but different on both the front and backends.
Summoning @rimu@piefed.social
It’s a different frontend with different features. You could be reading this very post on a Piefed instance instead of a Lemmy instance. Ditto for kbin.
No, piefed is just another front-end to the fediverse.
A very concise description, wonderful! 👍
piefed; https://piefed.world/post/474293
At the risk of agreeing with Reddit:
Under new rules rolling out over the coming months, a small number of users will be required to leave some of their moderator posts so that they aren’t moderating more than five subreddits with 100,000 monthly visitors.
That sounds perfectly reasonable. Reddit has a massive powermod problem.
Given Reddit’s past unreasonableness, I wouldn’t be surprised if this otherwise reasonable explanation has an alternative motive.
*ulterior
While ulterior is probably a better way to say that alternative motive also makes sense given the context.
Thanks, I wanted to say that but I couldn’t figure out how to spell it.
That’s what I guessed. Alternative is a fine alternative word though.
*exterior
*widdershins
The motive is these mods hold a decent amount of power on the platform that they wish to reduce. They don’t want a repeat of the API protests.
Now /u/spez will have all the power
Yeah that is exactly it. They didn’t want mods to be able to disrupt the site again, so they’re looking to make that more difficult.
God, I am so glad I left that place.
Gotta boost user numbers.
Or obscure them considering not letting people see sub count only daily/weekly activities
That’s it. It’s the illusion of fairness and it takes away reddit jannies’ ability to show off their powermod status, and that’s the only incentive they have not to use sockpuppets for every sub they mod.
The user numbers were bogus anyway since Reddit didn’t automatically decrement the user number after banning a member. The banned member had to manually unjoin the subreddit. So the membership count was inflated with banned members.
This is actually another of Reddit’s decisions that I’m in agreement with. Subscriber count isn’t a very useful number, it largely just measures how old a subreddit is. You can already see how old the subreddit is much more accurately by looking at its founding date.
If they’d added, yes. But removing it completely is just a way to hide how many are on the platform.
Or left in a protest
True, but Reddit let this problem fester for a long time.
What’s interesting to me here regarding this, is Reddits current preparation timescale. This isn’t going to be enforced until March 31st, 2026. This tells me that Reddit would have been unprepared for a complete mass-walkout of community moderators during the 2023 Reddit API strikes. A large chunk of Reddit during that period was genuinely inaccessible. But after a few token gestures and a few examples made of some especially rebellious mod-teams, most of the striking moderators returned.
A huge opportunity was missed by people running major communities to functionally degrade Reddit in at least the medium-term as a website. You can’t just hastily promote random people to replace moderators Reddit is either forced to remove or who leave voluntarily. The average person is likely too lazy, too arbitrary and too corrupt to effectively oversee communities of notable sizes.
The quality of reddit took a massive hit after the strike and never recovered.
it took another one from the series of purges this year too. i think the purges did alot more damage than reddit is letting on. since they were doing it for months on end, i was seeing a real decrease in users posting, and mostly it was replaced by bot posting.
I was on one of those “especially rebellious mod-teams”. We were even interviewed by Ars Technica about it all at the time.
On advice of a majority of our users, we took our sub offline and kept it that way until Reddit booted us as mods. Honestly, this was the outcome I was expecting — hell, I was pretty open about goading them into it. What was the alternative — to cave to the platform that was abusing us so I could keep working for them for free?
That’s the part I didn’t understand about my fellow mods from other subs. Many of them caved pretty quickly. Their identities seemed to be so tied up in being a Reddit mod that they couldn’t let it go, even though the relationship was obviously very unequal. Too many other people stood up after witnessing the mod abuse to take over from those who got the boot, just asking for the Reddit boot to be applied to their necks instead.
Well, I wish all the mods the kind of treatment they forgave/ignored the last time around.
at least you wernt like that anti-work mod that went ON FOX, that actually drew negative attention to the site.
I have way too much self-respect to ever show my face on FOX 🤣.
actually, thier purges since the election was too effective, and removed so much users and mods by banning them. plus the shadowbans have dramatically increased, because they made the filters to sensitive to "potential bots/spammers). 50/50 irl users/bots. at least right now, its reddit is filled with charlie kirk propaganda(negative and positive), with a little hint of luigi.
That was my reaction too. I don’t feel like digging in to see if it’s actually bad though. Not gonna affect my life.
Its probably related to the whole paying users thing.
We all presume that being the mod of several large reddit communities doesn’t include the possibility of sidehustle financial benefits.
Yet, humans are innovators of corruption! And I can only assume that any multi-mega-subreddit moderator has worked out something to make what is obviously a full time job worth their time.
I heard mods of big subreddits can get basically sponsored by big companies and go to events. Half the pc gaming subreddits have what are basically ad posts pinned by the mods.
It could be viewed as reasonable if viewed alone. I think that its fine and could make a lot of sense for control over their platform.
The history of reddit sheds a different context in my mind though. Mods are volunteers. Subreddits were established to moderate themselves, implementing nuanced rules for their specific topics that might differ from other subs that need completely different rules and approaches. Its part of what made reddit unique compared to alternate sites.
Then they made moderating much more difficult by eliminating third party apps. Then they started implementing their plans to take the platform where they wanted it, which is fine because its their platform, but they wanted all their mods to do a bunch of work and in a certain manner to make it so. Very demanding on free labor.
So there’s mods still around and they want to restrict them more? Who knows, maybe that’s a great idea but they made the mess they’re in. This decision isn’t a single on on its own, its part of a stack of them.
Yeah. I mean, I remembered seeing someone named awkwardturtle on there and they moderated like some 30+ subreddits? That’s ridiculous.
Users like that should not have that much power.
The problem with powermod isn’t that they exist, though. Moderation of a large sub is still done by volunteers that have had to hack solutions together because they don’t get a lot of support from Reddit. It helps Reddit to have experienced mods overseeing several subs because they bring with them experience on how to handle high profile and large scale moderation efforts. They are a technical talent pool that Reddit relies upon a lot.
The problem is that Reddit has shitty mod governance. It still uses rank by add date and offers no ability for users to kick a mod out except for TOS faults. Reddit doesn’t want to fix mod governance issues because it creates a legitimate mod power structure and Reddit doesn’t want to give that much power to users, including mods.
That said, Reddit’s shitty mod governance was copied directly to Lemmy.
Not really. The powermods arent bringing anything unique moderation except a network that allows them to control content for a specific audience. This is not about enforcing subreddit rules its about subreddit mods pushing an agenda across their subs and pushing sponsored posts outsides reddits ad program.
Its overall a good thing but the powermods will be replaced with reddit admins doing the ame
The powermods arent bringing anything unique moderation except a network that allows them to control content for a specific audience.
It depends who. There are some that build tools and procedures for handling large forums. They may also share best practices across different subs.
As for controlling content, it isn’t like a corporation or political group can’t create 20 accounts and take over subs. That’s already happened on Reddit.
Its overall a good thing but the powermods will be replaced with reddit admins doing the ame
Or sock puppet accounts. Banning the current set of mods without a plan on who replaces them doesn’t fix the problem.
They can still share tools and best practices but now they cant be involved in the post to post moderation.
As for controlling content, it isn’t like a corporation or political group can’t create 20 accounts and take over subs. That’s already happened on Reddit.
You cant do this if the mods are already doing this because the mods will remove the posts. Giving them a huge block of control over a majority of the content on the platform.
it allows them to institute changes ordered by the admins more effectively, complicitly. hard to do it if 500+ subs had thier own mod team, instead of just 92.
Yes, but they are also doing this to deleverage their mods and consolidate censorship power with corporate
admins actually are the one that hold all the power on the site, mods are the plebs that have to play ball. admins are only 2nd in power to spez. they are the ones behind the aggressive somewhat indiscriminate shadowbans and purges. its only a matter of time before they drop the mask and increasing more right leaning content.
Mods get to control the political narrative of their subreddits by banning those with opposing views. That makes them more powerful than admins. As an example, Reddit has been so flooded with pro-trans mods that it’s almost impossible to make an anti-trans agenda post in most subreddits without being banned.
You may or may not be right, but that example is apocalyptically bad (and probably betrays that you’re not worth talking to, if it reflects your “opinion”), because, ya know, most people with even a slither of empathy within them realize that “making an anti-trans agenda post” is just being a despicable piece of shit. Which would make the mods banning that behavior kinda based.
reddit might want AI to control some of the subs, dont you think?
It would have made sense if done years ago. Doing it now is suspicious.
I got my 15 year old account permanently banned for filing one report against a user who was stalking my profile to call me slurs. (This was “abusing the report button”, apparently.) Everyone in my household got their accounts banned alongside mine. It’s very strange how the site is being run now.
Yeah. When my 12 year old account got banned I stopped caring about that site and started creating new accounts every week and just posting whatever the hell I wanted without feeling like I needed to censor myself anymore. So their ban happy culture tends to have the opposite effect of what they want.
There’s a browser script out there that auto-adds all your subs back from your old account, so it really wasn’t even inconvenient for me other than the 2 minutes it takes to create a throwaway email account and create a new throwaway Reddit account.
And yeah, their methods for preventing you from coming back end up preventing others using the same computer or in the same household from coming back, so they just lose users. Their methods aren’t very sophisticated though, so it’s pretty easy to avoid them.
Shit site.
“Let’s get rid of our longest running users, that should help the site move forward.”
In a fucked up way, yes. As in I think it’s intentional/logical on their part. The culture of reddit has been changing for a while. I think they would want the “old heads” to leave, but also leave behind their posts/comments for others (and Reddit) to benefit off of.
That’s why people use those web apps that overwrite their comments with garbage. But I always think about how Reddit controls the servers, data, and backups.
Could you point me to one that overwrites my old posts?
Eh it doesnt really matter, I’m sure they kept running archives even before selling off to altman, and invariably impacts more actual people trying to maybe find that one useful comment to fix something.
that’s the point, when people got a dead end when looking for answers on reddit for the nth time, they will stop clicking those results
Yeah my 10+ yr account was like #340 in comment karma or some shit, I was clearly a contributor, but they banned me for nothing. Wish I would have sold it now.
you can sell an reddit account?
How much karma was that? I lost 3 accounts and one had over 100k comment karma, so they lost another good user here as well.
I loved to post solutions to problems that never got solved on several subreddits, oh well.
Woah… what’s this? I had no idea reddit accounts hold value!
I got a lifetime ban after 12 years on Reddit. I still have no clue why, and I really, really don’t care.
Same. I got a permaban on 9/12 with zero explanation as to why.
I live in a small country that sysadmins don’t care about. if I make an account on reddit, it will be banned the first time I say “hello” in the comments. there is no way for me to use Reddit. the appeal system is completely fake as far as i know. the messages go straight into the garbage they’re not read by anybody.
I’ve gotten IP banned twice. Once for talking about my cat killing rabbits (violence!) and once for talking about racist attacks against my local mayor by right wing nutjobs (supporting racism).
It’s astoundingly stupid. I was never once ever even banned or blocked from a subreddit until like 2022. Then I started repeatedly getting bans from lots of subs for racism, sexism and violence. Mostly for throughful comments that were getting tons of upvotes then I’d get some personal comment from a mod about what a jerk I was and how if I think men/women are the same, and race isn’t a huge pivotal thing, and violence is part of life… well then apparently I’m sexist, racist, and promoting violence. I also pointed out some obvious viral marketing going on in some subs… and banned. I also start getting harassed and targetted and followed by people on the site. It was so weird to have someone show up in other subs to insult/harass me or the constant PMs from weirdos. Never ever got those until like '22 as well.
Reddit was great when it was small. People were reasonable and chill mostly and debate was allowed. I learned so much from so many great communities. Now it’s just a corporate echo chamber that wants a inoffensive as possible Disney like image. It’s run by dingbats with zero ability to make normal judgements and caters to nutbags and bad actors who actively abuse things.
That said IRL things are so getting worse. My entire life I’ve mostly head the same opinions… and now all the sudden I’m ‘evil’ because I don’t agree with exteremist/ignorance-first agendas being pushed so hard.
I got banned for a month when I wrote that I disapprove of conspiracy theories. Some keyword list must have triggered it.
I’m currently on a 3 day ban on Reddit for “threatening others” because someone was going on about how they would smash people with telekinesis and I made a comment saying you could simply bend a prion without being dramatic and drawing attention to yourself.
I don’t even get how the fanfiction subreddits are not permabanned due to all the crazy shit that gets written up there.
There’s a snuff/gore fiction subreddit. XD
I got banned for using the expression “take a long walk off a short pier”.
I got perma banned a few years ago for saying pipzilla will stomp on ableists. cause apparently saying OCs of fictional characters will stomp on is a serious threat of violence Reddit moderation is so ass it’s comical people don’t believe me sometimes hwen itell them this is why i got banned but it is. v Pipzilla
I got banned for criticizing billionaires.
They updated their automod stuff a few months back and if you don’t follow the script you get banned very easily now.
I got banned for updooting Luigi stuff.
And I’ll fucking do it again!
Reddit has been dead since February, when Spez met with The Goblin, and then permabanned thousands, maybe millions of highly active accounts, including me. I was permabanned for repeating a post I had made many times with no issues. After 12 years, and almost a million Karma, I was suddenly too dangerous to allow on the platform, along with thousands of others.
We high volume posters built Reddit, but we shifted from being assets to problems after Trump was elected again.
“subreddits will stop displaying subscriber counts and instead show their “unique number of unique visitors over the last seven days, based on a rolling 28-day average,” Reddit’s rep said. Notably, old.reddit.com will not get these new stats but will still lose subscriber counts”
They are hiding,for stock purposes, their declining numbers from everyone they have banned. 12 year user I never said anything outlandish just dark humor that I always have. Stuff that would have been easily ok 10 years ago. Nope no more
Reddit died for me the moment RIF went down.
I still use RIF with a Revanced patch- the few weeks before I figured out how to do that I was zero time on reddit. That’s probably healthier for me.
I’m trying to shift over to Lemmy more and more it’s just difficult with some smaller/niche communities. But it’s worth the effort given how much spez is on his knees.
I was permabanned for saying fascists need to get curb stomped like one forefathers did.
I like how Reddit hosts the most hateful, vile, racist subreddits and bans people like me for not condoning it. That doublespeak is chefs kiss
I’m starting to get convinced that Redditors and mods are just gluttons for punishment by that platform.
They’re planning on kneecapping old.reddit in this update too, and you see all the typical howling about “if they kill old.reddit I’m leaving fr this time” while at the same time, another big thread one comment lower is about all the ridiculous bans that people have gotten. And this is a mere two years after the API fiasco.
Why do people continue to use a platform that has proven time and time again that the asshole(s) in charge do not give a single fuck about them?
It’s not about the platform but it’s where most of the people are. There’s just not a lot of people here, especially in relation to niche subjects.
There could be if people had / acted in accordance with any kind of principles of self respect. They’re ants in some rich mega douche’s ant farm, donating their time and energy to their captor, but refuse to make the fucking 6-inch journey to a free ant hill beside them.
Almost all of us are here because of the API bullshit. Those who stayed did us a favour, I reckon.
Tbf most of those are usually either lurkers or commenters. The people who post meaningful content are usually rare. But they used to be a lot more common in the early days though, I wonder what happened.
Thats what i like about it. They can stay there.
Fuck it’s been two years…
Reddit is in an incestuous relationship with Google. So it’ll remain relevant as long as it’s results keep getting into the front page of the biggest search engine. Add to that, the results getting fed into AI responses.
Influencers and marketers love Reddit at least as much as they still love Twitter.
Breaking news: Reddit is on fire again. In other news, rain contains water and Twitter is full of Nazis. More at ten.
The best way to leave reddit is to get permabanned.
lol can confirm
Yes, I expressed outrage at a disgusting state sanctioned murder in Iraq and suggested the invaders perpetrating these horror deserve to see the same kind of violence in their own cities. Permaban of the entire website forever. I could easily evade the ban but, this was also when the API trouble and the “reddit is fun” app stopped working. The writing was on the wall, duck that place and everyone in it. I won’t be taken hostage anymore.
I never looked back and I’m glad I did, I was wasting so much of my precious time in that ducking disgusting dump. I hope Lemmy doesn’t Septemberify for a long time. I really hope steps are taken to prevent centralization and owner dominance of Lemmy before it becomes reddit with extra steps
Lenny doesn’t really work like that. It’s not just one site.
Look, without agglomeration there is already a strong bias for any topic to have just “one big community” on “one big server” like lemmy.ml. Because why would anyone post anywhere else than the one community with the most users.
That’s the same reason everyone is on facebook and reddit. This is a fatal flaw of Lemmy. Just because there are many servers that doesn’t resolve the problem of centralization if everyone posts in the same community of the same big server.
And no one will manually subscribe to 1500 “books” communities with 5 user each, even if they existed. The solution is a single view that sees all “books” community by default.
I disagree. It’s not the fact that everyone goes to one, it is the fact that you can go to others if you want. It is fluid. You can migrate. It happens too. A lot of communities just switched to PieFed.
Id go back just to try and get banned again. I’ve tried everything I can think of. Always get shadow banned right away.
on many the large subs, you can get ban for overreporting to.
Can confirm. You can have the mildest takes and still get permbanned.
Did you know, that saying Neo-Nazis should be named and shamed is a permbannable offense?
Reddit is becoming Xitter 2.0 and I’m really hoping the remaining human users on there figure it out soon.
actually since reddit start scrutinizing new accounts and old accounts, you dont even need to cmment to get shadowbanned. thier AI just assume “sudden activity from a new or old account, is consider bannable” they see these types of accounts as potential bots. but we know reddit just wants less users, and only browsers to site anyways.
Another easy way is to use a VPN like Mullvad. They block you and you can’t see anything.
I DO use Mullvad! It’s only $5 a month. I love it.
I feel like I went through withdrawals, took like a month to get over it, now I rarely use reddit, not missing anything, just thought I was, I guess I do miss reddit from like 2015, but it was getting worse every year, one of my last posts months before my permaban was asking for alternatives. (It’s how I found lemmmy lol)
Reddit is also at a point where everything has been asked and is asked again weekly, i don’t really need to post/comment anything myself and my votes mean nothing because of the volume. Most of my comments would get lost in a void.
i think everyone, before the ban was pretty addicted to reddit especally logging in. i only skim through reddit now and then. i visit pet related, and science related subs more often(since im banned i just browse without logging in)
Can corroborate lmao. They’ve saved me so much time that I usually spent correcting misinfo, but I guess that’s what they want on their platform. Anyways Lemmy’s been an okay replacement.
They use weirdly aggressive fingerprinting to make sure you don’t make any new accounts, too. What a bunch of weirdos.
It’s so easy
There’s still way too many niche communities on Reddit that just haven’t taken off on Lemmy e.g. alternative and non-team sports.
There’s a ViolentMonkey script that can automatically delete all of your Reddit comments. I just run that every few days.
It’s not ideal, but it’s the best that I can do if I value access to those communities, which I do.
I joined after getting some weird warning about upvoting comments reddit didn’t like. That left a sour taste in my mouth.
Still waiting for the Reddit purge of Wincest, Rape, and Zoo subs. There’s a whole little toxic corner they allow to continue. I used to think they were honey pots. Now I’m not so sure.
What’s wincest
Drop the w and you’ll understand.
What. Why does it have a w then?
Originally it was from the supernatural community writing shipfics about Sam and Dean Winchester. Eventually the meaning diluted, and you had 4chan spouting “incest is wincest.” Reddit’s core userbase was poached from other web 2.0 sites, including 4chan, and so the echoes of imageboard culture live on.
Because we live in a world where it’s easy to block offensive words, so much so that the powers that be like to pretend that blocking talk about the 'cest is somehow an effective tool in combating it. (When instead it just coins an endless stream of new words that act as synonyms for ‘the bad words’. 'Cause funk you. Funk you to heck!)
Most people: “Why incest!?”
Reddit: “Why not incest?”
Reditors: “Wincest!!”.
Hey, don’t take away wincest memes from ck2, ck3 subreddits 🙃
I just use lemmy. 😚
Don’t forget /r/cuckservative. That shithole radicalizes so many low IQ incels.
Funny to hear from the new mods that replaced their predecessors during the protest. Now it’s their turn to be replaced
Got banned from the stims community after satirically commenting ‘I’m 14 and what is this?’
The moderator demanded that I submit identity documents. I pointed out that the account was twelve years old but they couldn’t back down at this point. I think they were trying to do a good job and were at least active but it was another nail in the coffin. In theory, an unpaid mod could be more objective because there’s no profit motive but the reality is that many are ideologically biased or dumb or controlling and none of them are trained. That any single individual wants to be in charge of the narrative is suspicious. Scale that ambition up to hundreds of thousands or millions of people it’s a red flag. Reddit is completely cooked these days, I haven’t returned since finding Lemmy.
These mods have ignored the previous waves of people leaving reddit. They were aware of this and have been warned but chose to stay
its the admins and spez instituiting these changes, reddit was doomed the moment it went public. the mods were too complacent.
They are power-hungry
