Is it possible that greta herself was provocing the israelis? She doesnt seem to be the type to sit silent. And she probably feels like they cant do anything to her, because of her fame.
NOBODY should EVER be imprisoned, starved, and forced to kiss things. Hope you can sit silent if that happens to you. Absolute useless person blaming the victim.
The victim plays a part in how they are treated. You can compare with walking up to an American police officer and acting all cocky. These people hate when they are not respected. If Greta was not famous, this behavior would actually be quite dangerous and she could get killed.
So in your opinion if a prison guard beat up and maybe even killed an intimate that would totally be justified as long as the inmate was shouting verbal abuse at them beforehand? What kind of fucked up logic is that? If a prison guard can’t take verbal abuse they’re in the wrong job.
Physically attacking someone simply because they’re shouting abuse at you is never a measured response and prison guards especially should be held to a higher standard than that.
It doesn’t matter if “these people hate when they are not respected”, neither police officers nor prison guards can hit people whenever they feel like it.
However, in the real world, that is often how it is. I dont support that behavior but I also dont think its reasonable to ignore reality completely and act surprised when the obvious happens.
This is strategy on her part, thats all it is, and you guys are thinking she is victim of abuse.
Imagine if somebody would kick your ass because you write stupid opinions online and then some asshole would say you are responsible for your ass whoopping.
What makes you say Greta was cocky? She deserves to be tortured for sailing on her own terms doing her own thing? You’re acting very cocky and I don’t appreciate your lack of respect for basic human rights.
Doing her own thing? You know she is a famous activist right? She went on that boat knowing what would happen of course. This media attention is also what she wanted to happen.
I agree with that, she is trying to do good here. I dont think im victim blaming since I dont see an activist provocing Israeli soldiers as being a victim. She is trying to achieve her goals.
Nobody likes being disrespected, who cares if you’re an “American police officer”. They are not special.
So you’re saying nobody can disrespect an American police officer or have their own opinion? If an American police officer gets their feelings hurt, you’re saying it’s okay to imprison and torture anyone who disrespects them? Hope you never disagree with a police officer and are imprisoned and tortured.
Honestly, your opinions are useless drivel. You aren’t famous anyway. What makes you think your opinions aren’t going to get you killed?
Of course im not saying its ok, but clearly its asking for problems if you do that. In this case, greta was asking for trouble because its her strategy to win minds and hearts by getting publicity like this. She knew you guys wouldnt ask what she was doing and you would only focus on the Israeli response to what she was doing. :)
Anyway, I guess you dont see any strategy here and just a innocent women being abused… :)
This type of conceded, complaisant attitude is why everything is as bad as it is. How about instead of being a keyboard warrior you make yourself useful? Maybe it’s people like you who don’t deserve this privilege of victim blaming for staying away from anything scary or worth fighting for.
The fact you put a smiley face after the phrase “innocent woman being abused” would make anyone who is not a psychopath sick.
The smiley was because you guys dont seem to realize all of this is her strategy, so its funny how you all act like an innocent women is being abused, when that is not what is happening here.
Of course they were expecting problems, as they tried to get to Gaza before, so they knew that they could expect Israeli interference. But the way the Israeli authorities are dealing with this is out of proportion. Like Chaotic Altruist was saying, trying to do a morally right thing and sail to Gaza to bring survival goods, should never result in violence and humiliation.
Of course it shouldnt, but we live in a world where it absolute will give problems. We didnt wake up yesterday and now we are completely surprised the world is what it is today.
Is it possible that greta herself was provocing the israelis? She doesnt seem to be the type to sit silent. And she probably feels like they cant do anything to her, because of her fame.
You are like those wife beaters defenders. She provoked her husband so her husband has to abuse her
Is this one of those “well she was wearing a skirt though” arguments? Victim blaming is rarely done in good faith.
She is not a victim, she is an activist with a strategy here.
Still the same argument and mindset: “well if she did not want to entice men why did she wear a skirt”
This was abused so she is a victim. Being an activist doesn’t change that
NOBODY should EVER be imprisoned, starved, and forced to kiss things. Hope you can sit silent if that happens to you. Absolute useless person blaming the victim.
The victim plays a part in how they are treated. You can compare with walking up to an American police officer and acting all cocky. These people hate when they are not respected. If Greta was not famous, this behavior would actually be quite dangerous and she could get killed.
So in your opinion if a prison guard beat up and maybe even killed an intimate that would totally be justified as long as the inmate was shouting verbal abuse at them beforehand? What kind of fucked up logic is that? If a prison guard can’t take verbal abuse they’re in the wrong job.
Physically attacking someone simply because they’re shouting abuse at you is never a measured response and prison guards especially should be held to a higher standard than that.
It doesn’t matter if “these people hate when they are not respected”, neither police officers nor prison guards can hit people whenever they feel like it.
Of course and I agree with how it should be.
However, in the real world, that is often how it is. I dont support that behavior but I also dont think its reasonable to ignore reality completely and act surprised when the obvious happens.
This is strategy on her part, thats all it is, and you guys are thinking she is victim of abuse.
Imagine if somebody would kick your ass because you write stupid opinions online and then some asshole would say you are responsible for your ass whoopping.
I think the example with the police officer made a lot more sense, since one side being an authority is the point here.
So speculation, victim blaming and general lack of humanity. Yours is an opinion i should listen to and live by…
What makes you say Greta was cocky? She deserves to be tortured for sailing on her own terms doing her own thing? You’re acting very cocky and I don’t appreciate your lack of respect for basic human rights.
Doing her own thing? You know she is a famous activist right? She went on that boat knowing what would happen of course. This media attention is also what she wanted to happen.
This is classic victim blaming. “You knew you would get attacked, so it’s your fault, not the attacker’s fault.”
Her goal is to get food to starving people. Media attention furthers that goal, even if they don’t succeed directly in delivering food.
I agree with that, she is trying to do good here. I dont think im victim blaming since I dont see an activist provocing Israeli soldiers as being a victim. She is trying to achieve her goals.
Nobody likes being disrespected, who cares if you’re an “American police officer”. They are not special.
So you’re saying nobody can disrespect an American police officer or have their own opinion? If an American police officer gets their feelings hurt, you’re saying it’s okay to imprison and torture anyone who disrespects them? Hope you never disagree with a police officer and are imprisoned and tortured.
Honestly, your opinions are useless drivel. You aren’t famous anyway. What makes you think your opinions aren’t going to get you killed?
Of course im not saying its ok, but clearly its asking for problems if you do that. In this case, greta was asking for trouble because its her strategy to win minds and hearts by getting publicity like this. She knew you guys wouldnt ask what she was doing and you would only focus on the Israeli response to what she was doing. :)
Anyway, I guess you dont see any strategy here and just a innocent women being abused… :)
This type of conceded, complaisant attitude is why everything is as bad as it is. How about instead of being a keyboard warrior you make yourself useful? Maybe it’s people like you who don’t deserve this privilege of victim blaming for staying away from anything scary or worth fighting for. The fact you put a smiley face after the phrase “innocent woman being abused” would make anyone who is not a psychopath sick.
The smiley was because you guys dont seem to realize all of this is her strategy, so its funny how you all act like an innocent women is being abused, when that is not what is happening here.
Fuck you are sick.
It does not matter if she goated them or not. There is no situation where the things they are doing are justified.
There is nothing she could have done that would require them to act like they did.
Give me one example what she could have done where beating her up and forcing her to kiss a flag would apropiate responce.
Of course they were expecting problems, as they tried to get to Gaza before, so they knew that they could expect Israeli interference. But the way the Israeli authorities are dealing with this is out of proportion. Like Chaotic Altruist was saying, trying to do a morally right thing and sail to Gaza to bring survival goods, should never result in violence and humiliation.
Of course it shouldnt, but we live in a world where it absolute will give problems. We didnt wake up yesterday and now we are completely surprised the world is what it is today.
Tell me again how you’re a middle aged white man