It’s toilet paper, my biggest concern is price. Besides, I have bidet, I can make a pack of 8 last a year.
Well, shit…
Here in Czechia there are mandated price per unit, with tp it’s iirc price per meter
This is why they have this stupid math on the packaging.
Because if all you look at is price / meter the lowest quality is obviously going to be the cheapest.
If you get 2-ply or 3-ply, it’s 2-3 more sheets per meter and much softer. So more expensive per meter, but you can also use less since you can use 4 sheets instead of 8 and get the same softness/padding.
Every toilet paper related thread ever:
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Jokes about paper quality
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Americans describing their upgrade to a bidet like its the second enlightenment
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Europeans feeling superior that they’ve been using bidets for a couple hundred years
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The one random Asian trying to figure out where did humanity regress and perma downgrade from water to ass scratch material in the western world
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No explanation as to how water users seems to magically dry themselves without tp, heat or air, yet watching a new user come out looking like it rained in the bathroom
And on rare occasions:
- Westerners describing low pressure water cleaning with your hand like it will give you ebola, despite it being objectively more sanitary than toilet paper, and despite the fact that’s how bidets used to work
Why are you shitting on the tp aficionados?
Srsly tho how do they dry.
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Toilet paper making is an ART! No other industry manages to create a half-ply so transparent that you can read your newspaper through it, while still delivering the tactile experience of an 80 grid industrial sandpaper.
Brother, just spend the few extra bucks and buy name brand, the extra money ain’t gonna kill ya. Meanwhile, the TP you seem to buy now might have you bleeding to death from your ass.
That’s not my toilet paper, but one I recently had to endure on a non-private toilet. I was just amazed that they can actually produce such a paper. I’m quite attached to my ass and it’s wellbeing, so sure I buy the better stuff for me and my family.
No wonder millennials can’t afford a house, with all the avocado toast and 10-ply toilet paper. /s
In my over 50 years, I’ve never eaten an avocado toast.
The one that lists sheets is at least using a verifiable metric. It’s better than the “right rolls of unspecified size are more than 39 different rolls of unspecified size”.
Still silly because no one knows how many sheets they use before changing the roll, but at least it’s reasonable silly.
Isn’t it the same problem tho, since they can make the sheets smaller and say there’s more without actually offering a longer roll?
We need legally defined toilet paper roll standards.
Lets setup some ISO standards for shit wipers.
I would be shocked if there isn’t already one. The trick is getting companies to adhere to it.
Helps that they tend to be square-ish, there’s a subsection of people who would notice immediately if you can’t fold perfect paper cranes from a single sheet while you’re pooping.
pretty sure they are rectangles
Oh, totally. It’s by no means a good measurement, it’s just the only one that’s in some way tied to anything tangible. “8=39” doesn’t mean anything.
Which matters more total kg or mm2 ?
Kg for sure, i wouldn’t trust tp with a low cost per mm²
I also don’t trust a toilet paper with a low gsm.
Maybe we need both a gsm and total weight labeling.
The label usually says total surface area in the package. The stores near me break the price down to cost per unit of area, as well. This really untangles the 'how much should I pay for a quadrahedroll vs a dodecca butt sphere" worth of paper?
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yknow what’s great? unit pricing laws
tldr: in australia businesses must display “unit price” on labels: price per 100g, per 100ml, per sheet, etc for every product so that packages are comparable
I use unit pricing every time I shop. I am so thankful the accc made it required.
ditto! i’d probably do it in my head for a lot of things still because metric is easy, but it saves me so much time and i’m sure i’m an outlier
There’s some brands that cheat this in Australia.
They have “select a size” or something, where they have smaller length sheets. So you get a bigger number of them and it shows a lower price/100 sheets.
Only ever seen the small length ones on the shelves, but I haven’t looked that hard though tbh.
The thing with toilet rolls though, is they show price per roll, but the rolls themselves have different amounts of sheets. So you gotta do the extra math.
Unless in your country they show price per sheet? Which I would assume would be below one cent.
Australia displays price per 100 sheets.
Example:
In Sweden I see price per kg for toilet paper. Which I guess can help you guesstimate, if you always look for 3 layers for example…?
yup they show price per sheet by law
We have this in the US for most things too, at least in Ohio where I’m from, not sure about other states or if it’s a federal thing. I’m not an expert on the law of it, but I can’t think off the top of my head anything that doesn’t have it.
I believe paper towels and TP are $ per square foot or smth like that
Square foot isn’t a great estimate for toilet paper, because within certain limits no one cares about the width of their TP. This means manufacturers will enshittify their products by making the rolls slightly wider (but fewer sheets). The packaging makes it seem like they’re selling the same amount, but you suddenly find yourself needing to buy more.
It’s better than having no measurement at all. I agree it’d be better to rate it with a measurement actually relevant to its use, but the main thing is at least we have it and thusly can improve it if we pressure whoever regulates it enough.
I wish they sold them by shits instead of by sheets. “This package is good for 100 regular shits or 50 creamy shits.”
This would be incredibly unreliable. I’d rather want the hard facts: how many sheets per roll and how many plies
Welcome to our newest technology, mini sheets! They are much softer and better for your anal health. Good luck guessing what size they are.
In Canada at the bottom of the package they will tell you the dimensions of the sheet and sheets per roll or length I can’t remember.
You still have to do math but the actual numbers are there for you to do it.
The real answer is just go to Costco and buy one of those giant packs with the massive sheets and don’t think too much about it.
This is such bullshit. Pointless manipulation of product offerings to hide the true cost, and thereby manipulate prices. I’ve been doing paper towel math like this for years and it drives me nuts. Grocery stores’ profit model is now almost entirely based on price manipulation and nothing else.
Given the information here, I believe that:
1 Giant Roll = 2.25+ Rolls = 2250+ Sheets
1 Double Roll = 2 Rolls = 2000 Sheets
1 Super Mega Roll = 6 Rolls = 6000 Sheets
1000 Sheets = 1 Roll = 0.5 Double Roll = 0.444 Giant Roll = 0.166 Super Mega Roll
1 Super Mega Roll = 2.666 Giant Roll = 3 Double Roll = 6 Roll = 6000 Sheets
I can take 6000 shits with one super mega roll?! WOW!
Yes , if you use exactly 1 square each time.
But someone so enterprising and smart like you probably uses both sides, so 12,000 shits per roll is on the table.
I use a bidet, btw.
Ok? You still need to dry yourself, don’t you?
Get a load of this guy, never used a bidet! /s
But seriously, there’s many ways to go about it. Some people don’t use anything, some use tp, some bidets blow air, some use a dedicated towel.
I’ve used a basic add-on version for a toilet, and I actually wiped first, but it evened out, because I didn’t want to get every last particle, just remove the bulk, because I was paranoid about sending bits flying. Of course it also depends on the, uh, consistency.
I used to run a bidet system, but then I found out about xylospongium:
It’s got slightly different architecture than bidet, and you have to manually compile some of the features that bidetinstall handles automatically, but you gain so much more control over your system. Never going back.
Just Roman things…
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/magazine/why-do-americans-stink-at-math.html
One of the most vivid arithmetic failings displayed by Americans occurred in the early 1980s, when the A&W restaurant chain released a new hamburger to rival the McDonald’s Quarter Pounder. With a third-pound of beef, the A&W burger had more meat than the Quarter Pounder; in taste tests, customers preferred A&W’s burger. And it was less expensive. A lavish A&W television and radio marketing campaign cited these benefits. Yet instead of leaping at the great value, customers snubbed it.
Only when the company held customer focus groups did it become clear why. The Third Pounder presented the American public with a test in fractions. And we failed. Misunderstanding the value of one-third, customers believed they were being overcharged. Why, they asked the researchers, should they pay the same amount for a third of a pound of meat as they did for a quarter-pound of meat at McDonald’s. The “4” in “¼,” larger than the “3” in “⅓,” led them astray.
America: Failing 2nd grade math since the 1980s.
In fairness, the people they surveyed grew up breathing lead. I wonder if a modern audience would handle that test better
Nope. Failure rate would be the same.
I would think worse actually, fairly sure our literacy and numeracy scores are worse now than in the 80s.
Ah, ok, they peaked in 2012, been declining since, almost back down to 70s/80s levels.
This graoh only goes to 2022… and other sources have those scores continuing to fall.
And we also have TikTok destroying everyone’s attention spans and capacity to self regulate today.
The modern consumer would understand the a&w restaurant is probably run much more city than the McDonald’s restaurant unfortunately. It’s always interesting to me when I go to the McDonald’s near my house that shares a parking lot with KFC / a&w and unfortunately that a&w and KFC restaurant is literally one of the worst run restaurants in my area. Only rivaled by the Wendy’s three blocks away. Where is that McDonald’s the worst they’ve done is late night they’re shake machine and ice cream machine always seems to be broken and they get my order wrong probably one out of every five times. But not blatantly wrong every single order.
The modern consumer would understand the a&w restaurant is probably run much more city than the McDonald’s restaurant unfortunately.
… What does ‘run much more city’ mean?
Were you trying to type ‘shittily’?
Yeah I was supposed to be shitty but when you do voice to text and don’t look at what’s typed out it kind of messes up sometimes not a big deal you got the idea
Should have called it the 2/6 pounder.
No one goes to A&W for their burgers, especially in the 80’s. Hot dogs and root beer.
… Which is greater, 1/3, or 1/4?
Duh, obviously it’s the one that makes me look stupid. Foot long hotdog is my answer.
Ok, boomer.
Best part is when you go to different store and they got from per sheet to square foot or some nonsense.
I wanna know how many square cubits it is.
Why not by weight?
They show the price per weight in Denmark.
1 Bidet = paper free for 2 to three years.
When I spray paint watercolor, I don’t just wipe my air brush. I wash it over and over in water until all paint is gone.
Although, no one washes canons between canon shots. They wipe the insides with an oily rag. So sure, there are things you wipe off with a dirty rag. So go ahead, keep wiping.
