• cisco87@lemmy.zip
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    21 hours ago

    The russian supermegapower has been stuck at the closest region of its border for 4 years

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      22 hours ago

      Material reality is stacked against NATO here. Turns out that spending decades offshoring key industries had some consequences. No amount of triumph of the will can change that.

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        21 hours ago

        alright, what do you think is the objective of nato and what do you think is the objective of the supermegapower? we need to clarify that first in order to have a conversation

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            20 hours ago

            But that does not answer my question, I could have lived also under a rock, but my post was a question, didn’t define anything or made any assumption, just asked what do you think is the objective of the russian supermegapower and what do you think is the objective of nato

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              20 hours ago

              It does if you have even a bare minimum of reading comprehension. The objective of NATO was to try and break up Russia as outlined in detail in this RAND paper. The goal was to cut off Russia economically from trade and collapse its economy. That obviously didn’t happen, and now NATO finds itself in a proxy war that it lost. The goal of Russia is pretty obvious as well. It’s to remove NATO threat on its border and ideally to break up NATO. This is the goal Russia is currently accomplishing.

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                20 hours ago

                It broke up nato by making countries who didn’t join for 50 years join it , see Sweden and Finland , wait, where is Finland geographically?

                Probably not on the border with the super mega power:D

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                  19 hours ago

                  Sweden and Finland were already so integrated with the western military block through the EU that them officially joining NATO is less a material change and more a symbolic formality. Not to mention that the Finnish-Russian border is an even worst path to invade Russia from Europe than the already difficult paths through Poland and Ukraine, and we know how invasions of Russia through those routes tend to go.

                  So it’s not the loss for Russia you think it is.

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                  20 hours ago

                  NATO has always been a US project. Without the US there is no NATO, Europe can’t even produce basic stuff like explosives at this point. And if you don’t understand that the US turning on Europe is the direct outcome of the war, what else is there to say really.

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              20 hours ago

              Lol, because the person they were talking to was being so humble and good faith. Shove off.

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              20 hours ago

              Respectfully, your own comment came across condescending, if you weren’t trolling you might wanna be more thoughtful in the future so we understand you’re being earnest

              Edit: that was a different person lol. Nonetheless, that person was condescending, so they were condescending back. That’s the explanation.